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Sigh... All I need is my 7x57...
13 March 2002, 07:51
<Dogger>Sigh... All I need is my 7x57...
Shucks! I saw BushPilot's thread on the African Hunting forum and read it... And the various responses to his post just confirm it -- for the critters I pursue in the great state of Virginia, I just don't need a 270 Winnie or a 30-06. My 7x57 will do just fine.
And here I was, having almost convinced myself (thorough selective reading over the past few months) that I had to have that 270, or that 30-06!!!
Help me out, gentle readers! Tell me why I DO NEED that other rifle!
Sigh...

13 March 2002, 08:11
DB BillTransition!!!! Eventually you will wear that 7x57 out or it will need to go to the 'smiths for some work so you will need another rifle you can "transition" into...might as well start getting your transition rifle into shape before you really need it.
13 March 2002, 11:24
Fritz Krautquote:
Originally posted by Dogger:
Help me out, gentle readers! Tell me why I DO NEED that other rifle!
Sigh...

Because it�s fun! "Variatio delectat", variation is a pleasure. For me that would be reason enough. 
Another more practical reason is to have rifles for several purposes. Your 7x57 can you use for close distances or general purpose, but if you take a .270, you can equip it with a good scope for longer distances in open areas. There are thousands of possibilties with many rifles. You just customize them for specialized purposes.
Best regards,
Fritz
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...the mark of the hunter is the ability to get close.
13 March 2002, 11:53
<BusPilot>Dogger: O.K., after convincing me of getting the 7x57 by your interesting and informative post you still want to get a .270 or an -06? Well, I'll make it easy for you to defect (oops!), I mean "transition."
1.)To explore the wonderful world of ballistics through the thoughtful pursuit of various calibers and rifles.
2.)To settle once and for all, which really is the better rifle: the .270 or the -'06.
3.)To see if, as reported, the .270 and -'06
really do destroy more meat for eating, and kill "deader" than the 7x57!
4.)The all-American reason......
Because it creates more jobs! (for bullet, powder, rifle, scope and die makers).
5.) Finally, because, if it was good enough for O'Connor, by golly, it's good 'nough for me!
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God, Guns and Gibsons...doesn't get much better than that!
Dogger, rather than duplicating your efforts with a 270 (and even a 30-06), why not go "classic" and "bigger" at the same time by rebarreling a LA M77... 35 Whelen, or, more in keeping with your 7x57, a 9.3x62... that'd make yours a perfect "Teutonic" pair for anything in NA... and then some.
Brad
13 March 2002, 13:55
p dog shooterI most likly do not need another rifle SO. You Most likly do no need another rifle SO. having another rifle is fun. That is why I get other rifles they are fun to load for shoot and to hold.
You don't! More is not allways best. Rifles are a bit like girls in a way. Your first you (normaly) cherish and spend hours experimenting with. With each addition you get to realise they all do basicaly the same thing and after the initial exploration interest wanes. It's the law of diminishing returns.
Having said that there is something to be said for specialisation. I have a morning rifle, an evening rifle, a travel rifle, a knockabout rifle and a big rifle. I am currently searching for the same in women but doubt if I have the same energy.
15 March 2002, 05:23
<leo>Think of the 7x57 as a down-sized '06 considering sectional densities of bullets and their velocities(when handloaded anyway). And when not handloaded, it's still perfect for the vast majority of hunting.
16 March 2002, 20:41
SocratesWHATEVER. TALK TO THE 375 HAND...
GS
17 March 2002, 04:40
<OTTO>For shooting at game in VA the 7x57 is all you will ever NEED. For shooting game here in MN I thought all I needed was a 12ga shotgun, so I got one. With that said, now I'm way past need and into full scale WANT, WANT, WANT!! I wanted a .280 rem, a .270 win, a 6.5-06, a 6.5-284, a 6.5x55, a 6.5-257 roberts improved, and a 7x57 improved(not a 30-06 in the bunch.....yet). So if you ask me, stick with that 7x57 until you WANT something new.
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From my cold, dead hands!
Thanks Chuck!
18 March 2002, 08:23
SocratesKind of curious. If you want another rifle, why buy something so close to what you have?
Go down or up, like 223 or 375, etc. Just doesn't make sense to buy another rifle, if it's very close to what you have.
gs
19 March 2002, 12:57
AtkinsonYou sure don't "need" another rifle..but whats that got to do with anything, it's all about "want". I always want another rifle.
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Ray Atkinson
ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com
19 March 2002, 14:17
<waldog>Ditto.
If you WANT another rifle, then go a lot bigger, or a lot smaller. Meaning either a .22 bore or a big bore.
Why get a rifle that will compete with your 7x57?
21 March 2002, 03:00
<Dogger>A really big boomer makes no sense in Virginia... but a .358 Winchester would be a great rifle on the Massanutten mountain for black bear. Perhaps a 338-06... or a .348 Winchester if I could find one.
You are right! I don't NEED another rifle. I WANT one!!
Besides, by purchasing another rifle I am helping keep the economy strong for the War on Terrorism! Why, at this time in history, it would be unpatriotic not to purchase another rifle!! And reloading dies... and powder... and brass... and primers...
This line of reasoning works well on me. I wonder if it will work on the spouse-unit??
22 March 2002, 11:35
johnnyrebDogger, I live just up the road from you in Sterling. What shooting ranges do you frequent?
22 March 2002, 15:00
AtkinsonThat my boy!! go for the gold!!

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Ray Atkinson
ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com
25 March 2002, 17:43
Major CaliberI have lot's of medium bores, 7x57 7mm08 270 6.5x55 280 7mm Rem mag 30-06, but if the only rifle I had was a 7x57, I would try to expand my calibers more. Go for a .223, then your next rifle should be a 338 mag, 35 whelen etc..
27 March 2002, 15:35
WyoManI can tell any man how many guns he needs. I don't care if he is from NA, Africa or timbuktu ---
One more than he currently has!
29 March 2002, 17:03
<Fish Springs>One cannot have too many firearms. Make a commitment to buy at least one new gun a year and stick to it.
First you plan your east coast battery, then your gulf coast battery, then your western battery, an alaskan battery and Africa--heck collecting a european battery or one from central asia might lead to some exciting travel