I have friends who live in Texas, one of them is a Ex California hunter who decides

he's going to go hunting in Texas . So he asks fellow workers where to deer hunt ?.

He sent me these pictures !!!. Is this how Texas hunts or Mid West states ?.

Deer Baiting luxury transportation elaborate hardly can be considered a Tree Stand !.

If this is how Texans hunt I'm extremely glad I've never hunted in that state !!!.

He has assured me that these are NO JOKE !. I want to know from Texans themselves !.

Other than the hunting "rig" no of that is Texas.

Perry

Real Texans get a chuckle when out-of-touch out-of-staters try and concoct visual images of hunting in the Lone Star state -- especially when using photos from MICHIGAN.

Spot-and-stalk and still hunting comprise 95% of my own hunting, and while I have hunted from a blind, it's not very common, even though my health is beginning to push me more and more into that direction.

Yes, there are places where stand hunting is the only logical -- not to mention safe -- way to hunt.

But what is pictured above is nothing more than a joke to most Texans.

Well I'm thankful to hear that !. Are those from Michigan really ??. I'll ring his neck !!!.

I have used transportation in several states swamp buggies pickup trucks quads , to get where

we had to go in order to start a hunt . I've never hunted in a tree stand , have hunted in blinds

mostly for ducks geese waterfowl in general . Once in Africa for a water hole spy .

Other than that Horses and mules for Elk & Deer , mostly in Northern states with an outfitter .

Also in New Mexico Arizona because of weight and distance too pack out .

All game hunts I've ever been involved with were on foot humping it up and down rocks thickets

cactus brush loose shale too sand . I've never even hunted where they bait the game .

Felt like that's cheating even over in Africa where it's practiced for cats !.

can't be Texas, there were no deer (with eartags) tethered on a short leash. Plus no babes in the hot tub. Finally there is no Patron tequila, limes, salt or cigars.
Other than that its pretty close for a low end lease. I don't think I'd pay much more than $1500 annually for a place like that, even if I could shoot all the hogs, exotics, white tail, turkey amd varmints that I wanted year round!Just one mans opinion!
GWB

Not Texas. Everything would be surrounded by a high fence. Oppps I forgot. They do that in Michigan too don't they.

Us ex-Texans take that as an insult. Everyone knows our set ups are much higher class that these. Everyone knows that we have a double breasted trouser trout in our hot tubs to go with our huntin'.

If it worth doing, it is worth over doing.

Goodness... Show a little class please.

The pictures are not from Texas, and not trying to dispute Bobby Tomeck on this, but where most of his hunting is done spot and stalk, the majority of hunting in texas is done from a blind/stand overlooking a feeder.

To try and say that the majority of Texans don't use stands and feeders is just flat wrong.

There is no reason what so ever, to try and convince folks that hunting deer in Texas, is Not what most folks would classify as hunting.

Does that mean these folks don't buy license and put needed $$$$$$ into the local economy, NO.

Does it mean that what Texans consider hunting is wrong, NO.

We have to hunt the way conditions dictate.

Does that mean that other hunters, should look down upon Texans because of the conditions we have to deal with, NO.

If hunting of any kind or fashion is to be saved, ALL people that claim to be hunters, are going to have to put their feelings and prejudices aside, and support each other.

If they do not grow up and do that, everyone loses in the end.

crazyhorseconsulting wrote:

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the majority of hunting in texas is done from a blind/stand overlooking a feeder.

Yes, you are right. I was simply indicating how I hunt and not saying that overyone else does the same.

Sorry for any confusion on that.

Bobby

No confusion on my part Bobby, just reality.

Over the 40 years I have been hunting derer and bigger stuff, fully 90% of the game I have killed, including vthe stuff in Texas, has been killed by spot and stalk or stumble-on hunting.

I have never really liked hunting from a blind watching a feeder, but unfortunately, on most places in Texas, that is all that can be done.

Whether that is due to the size of the properties, or the lack of experience of the hunters, is not known.

I think many folks would enjoy doing spot and stalk hunting if they could try it, but many landowners are not going to be real receptive toward having hunters out walking around the property. JMO.

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can't be Texas, there were no deer (with eartags) tethered on a short leash. Plus no babes in the hot tub. Finally there is no Patron tequila, limes, salt or cigars.
Other than that its pretty close for a low end lease

From time to time there are posts taking us Texans and the way we hunt to task.

I consider myself to be an unreconstucted red neck southern cracker whose parents were so poor when I was born, I tell people that they couldn't afford a name for me, only Initials.
I have not chosen to hunt Alaska, Africa Australia, Argentina,
or any other coutries that start with B through Z. However, I have hunted Colorado,Montana and Texas. I'll take Texas any day. I make no apologies for the way I hunt. I love this state. I love the way I hunt. I love the guys I hunt with. I kill deer, hogs, turkey, sheep, exotics, dove, quail, ducks, geese, varmints and just about everything else that flies, crawls, walks swims, hops, skips or jumps. Whats more, my buds and I kill numerous shots of tequila every time we are in camp.
And to somewhat paraphrase David Allen Coe, "IF THAT AIN'T TEXAS, YOU CAN KISS MY ASS."

GWB

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Originally posted by Doc224/375:

Speak of hunting "in style" .

What I wonder is, how does the guy in the hottub keep his powder dry??

On a somewhat equally bizarre note (but without the tongue in cheek), in the Communist days of (particularly) Romania and (to a lesser degree) Bulgaria, the Communist elite apparently also indulged in hunting excesses. The Romanian dictator president, Ceaucescu, had houses built as "hunting stands" for his bear hunting. The bears were baited, and a scale was strategically placed on which the bear would have to stand to reach the bait. Thus, it was possible to determine whether the current "candidate" was a "worthy" specimen. It sure makes you wonder...

- mike

Well as they say down in them parts .

Yah do what ya feels right win huntin !. I personally see NO SPORT or Challenge in

shooting over baited quarry !. That's not Hunting in my book and it's just that MY BOOK !.




Looks like at baited area about 100-150 Yd. from that low rent tree stand !.

That's not Texas. There's green grass.

Baited?

Or planted?
GWB

Caution. Extra charge if you shoot a hole in the hot tub.

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Originally posted by Geedubya:
Baited?

Or planted?
GWB

Really, is there a difference? Not to start a debate, but I don't really see a difference in a corn feeder and a foodplot. What do I know though? I'm just a desert-dweller that hunts public land (and a bit of private in TX for piggies)...

Yes, of course that's TX. All TX ranches, every single one of them, have hot tubs in the deer blinds. Without exception. I've never killed a deer outside of the hot tub or sauna.
We all shoot deer that have ear tags in them, it helps to see them when you shine the spot light on them at night or fromt the helicopter.

Fjold is correct, can't be TX, the grass is green. Wrong kind of Flora for it to be TX.

DesertRam,
In a bad year, drought wise, food plots will keep your herd alive.

What is pictured is certainly not typical of Texas. In fact, only two of my six ranches have facilities similar to this, so I would say that such hunting sites are definately in the minority.

How do you keep your scope from fogging over while hunting from a hot tub. My experience is sort of limited in that regard.

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How do you keep your scope from fogging over while hunting from a hot tub.

We use Rain Guard........

Bob

My low-fenced buck from last weekend in Menard County, Texas.

Stonecreek wrote:

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What is pictured is certainly not typical of Texas. In fact, only two of my six ranches have facilities similar to this, so I would say that such hunting sites are definately in the minority.

But hey, you're forgetting something: I hear from a good source that you're brokering to get a 5-star restaurant on ranch #7 -- complete with a heli-pad so you can just fly in, have the meal of your choice and then hunt from the balcony window.

Weren't you getting a mini-mall on the first floor, too?

And I guess we should confess, too, that when time is short, true-blue Texans just hunt from the chopper. We then radio the hired help to retrieve the animal while we casually jet back home and wait for the knock at the door when the taxidermist delivers another "trophy."

You know you're not a real Texan until you kill a running buck out of a moving helicopter.
Any method is acceptable.

I wonder if the lease manager would let me build a nice warm shack like that on our lease? Nope. We aren't allowed to plant food plots either. The really nice buck don't often stand out around feeders or box stands unless the rut is on and the feeder has a couple hot does around it.

rickt300,
What you said

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The really nice buck don't often stand out around feeders or box stands unless the rut is on and the feeder has a couple hot does around it.

That has been my experience also. I have had game cameras out at feeders and taken pix of bucks that came to the feeders only at night.
I have pix at other places where the same bucks hang out for 10 months and when the rut hits you will not get a picture of them for the next two months. I think I have taken one good buck at a feeder in last 10 years. All the others were shot either chasing does during the rut or taken while glassing.
GWB

Like Rick and GWB noted, you aren't going to find the big bucks around feeders. I have a sanctuary area set up for deer where no hunting is allowed. They have protein mixed with a little corn all year long in addition to a couple small food plots. I have a game cam there all year, but the older bucks almost never show up.

Here is a buck I rattled up last month. I have never seen him in the area before. Ditto for one I took the season before -- and I spend lots of time out there in the off-season.

It ain't Michigan. It's way too cold during hunting season to wear cowboy hats.

That ain't my blind, my interior decorator is throwing up just looking at it.....besides there's no spare room for the wait staff.

Where exactly are all the high fences and posh box stands at?

Most of my deer hunting consists of sitting on a boat cushion at the base of an oak tree, shivering, waiting for a deer to blunder passed me. I guess I'm doing this all wrong.

I've hunted leased and public land all over East Texas and I've never seen a high fence near the areas I hunt.

What am I missing here?

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What am I missing here?

Not One Damn Thing.

I have been hunting white tails in texas since 1970, and even though I have hunted a couple of High Fence places, including some of the TP&W managed WMA's, the vast majority of my hunting has been on low fenced properties, many times with out benefit of either a stand/blind or a timed feeder.

It all depends on what each individual wants or expects out of a hunting experience.

I have known of folks in parts of Texas, that have a feeder setting 100 yards out from their kitchen window, and if they see a deer at it that they want to shoot, they just raise the window, stick the rifle out of it, and shoot the thing.

Where the problem comes in, is when the uninformed, or those with no real knowledge of how things are in Texas as far as accepted or permitted hunting practices, start mouthing off, and accusing the folks that hunt from stands over feeders as not being hunters.

As far as I know, there is no "Set In Stone" standard for what hunting is or should be to EVERYONE, WORLWIDE.

Just my own opinion, and thru actual experience, I have found that the majority of people that look down on hunting as it is done in Texas, tended to be less experienced hunters, and hunters that for whatever the reason or circumstance, hetehr finacial limitations or lack of opportunity, have never had the chance to hunt on some of these places, or if they have, it was on one of small places offering hunts for exoctics, that are way over stocked animal wise for the amount of land under the fence.

A properly managed operation can be just as challenging a hunt as Public Land, the key is finding the places that are properly managed.

The best I have seen is: www.celebrityranch.com

Although I don't presently live in Texas, I've hunted there for many years. Yep, behind many tall fences there are a huge number of box-stands overlooking feeders. Yep, there are a huge number of folks who sit in them, sometimes with heaters, TV's, and refridgerators...and shoot deer that come to the sound of the feeder. I don't call that hunting, but many do.

However, there are also a huge number of areas that are low-fenced, or no-fenced for miles and miles that have no feeders and no box stands. These areas are truly fun to hunt. The other is just shooting stuff that wanders up.

I want to know how somebody got pictures of my place?! Must be poachers.

Alan

Here is my So Texas Deer - just shot him about 2 weeks ago on the King Ranch. My buddies have 2 9000acre leases there, low fence, there are feeders set up, 5 on this lease of 9000acres - so I guess you could say that this deer was baited - except that the closest feeder was probably about a mile away, and that nobody had ever seen this deer before. He was 16 points, with a g3 and 2 drop-tines broken off - wet B&C was 159, with broken tines the Biologist suggested that he'd be around 170 (based on his 20+ years of experience). I shot 2 daily limits of wild bobwhite quail, ducks, hogs,javelinas and missed a giant Nilgai. Again, everything is low fenced, King Ranch won't allow any high fenced nonsense. The lease next to the one that I killed my deer on shot the new Texas typical Bow whitetail in Sept on the opener - I was there hunting Doves and we heard about it then, but I didn't see it until it hit ESPN.com
Its hard to beat Texas for hunting.

First of all, welcome to the board.

Secondly, congrats on taking a SUPER whitetail buck...

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Originally posted by Ryan Campbell:
Yes, of course that's TX. All TX ranches, every single one of them, have hot tubs in the deer blinds. Without exception. I've never killed a deer outside of the hot tub or sauna.
We all shoot deer that have ear tags in them, it helps to see them when you shine the spot light on them at night or fromt the helicopter.

Fjold is correct, can't be TX, the grass is green. Wrong kind of Flora for it to be TX.

DesertRam,
In a bad year, drought wise, food plots will keep your herd alive.

All true. I have hunted with Ryan and his stands have some of the nicest hot tubs I have ever hunted out of. The only complaint was that the bartender at one of the stands made my martini a little too dry.

Don't worry about that happening again. Ryan fired him and hired a Playboy bunny as bartender to replace him.

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Originally posted by popndrop:
Here is my So Texas Deer - just shot him about 2 weeks ago on the King Ranch. My buddies have 2 9000acre leases there, low fence, there are feeders set up, 5 on this lease of 9000acres - so I guess you could say that this deer was baited - except that the closest feeder was probably about a mile away, and that nobody had ever seen this deer before. He was 16 points, with a g3 and 2 drop-tines broken off - wet B&C was 159, with broken tines the Biologist suggested that he'd be around 170 (based on his 20+ years of experience). I shot 2 daily limits of wild bobwhite quail, ducks, hogs,javelinas and missed a giant Nilgai. Again, everything is low fenced, King Ranch won't allow any high fenced nonsense. The lease next to the one that I killed my deer on shot the new Texas typical Bow whitetail in Sept on the opener - I was there hunting Doves and we heard about it then, but I didn't see it until it hit ESPN.com
Its hard to beat Texas for hunting.

Congrats a ton!!! One hell of a deer you killed wiyh your "pumpkin lobber"

That picture is not at all true-----a blaze orange hat is NOT REQUIRED when hunting from a hot tub in Texas-----just ask Crazyhorse !!!

Hip

I hardly believe that hot tub is in Texas. First off, there is only one beer anywhere near the hunter, and a full-stocked rifle instead of a 'leever'. I doubt its validity.