One Shot, One bear, One matchking.....

23 September 2003, 01:20

Hot Core

quote:
Originally posted by Hot Core:

quote:
Originally posted by Boyd Heaton:
Tod...I was just wondering what the wound channel looked like...Did the bullet exit???
Hey Tod, Congratulations on the kill.

I'm wondering the same as Boyd, what did the bullet path look like? How would you rate it to other bullets you have used, once it got into the Bear? Have you used any other MatchKings on bears?

Hey Todd, OK, same questions about the Accubond???

23 September 2003, 01:38

Bob in TX

......boy, got the distance and teh Match King crowd stirred-up all at the same time. Tod, you are a bad, bad man!

Bob [Cool]

23 September 2003, 05:17

pagris

Now that the truth is out, perhaps you can tell us Tod - would you take a 590 yard shot at a bear if the opportunity presented itself? Sure seems like you got some supporters who think you could/should - what do you think, since you started all of this? Got to go - just saw a woodchuck on the back forty that will also square about 7 ft!

23 September 2003, 09:38

todbartell

Hot Core ,

I hit him quartering towards, between his right shoulder and his front brisket. Bullet took top of the heart/aorta off, through the lungs, liver, and a piece of stomach, were it exited between two ribs. I knew I had hit him well, there was a loud bullet impact slap as it hit him @ almost 2600 fps. He swapped ends and ran maybe 10 yards, where he stumbled and fell on a log pile, coming to rest on his back. He was stone dead before the muzzle blast had stopped its echo. Good blood trail, from the entrance. I think bullet performance couldn't of been any better IMO.

pagris,

Would I take a 590 yard shot on a bear? No way, never, doesn't matter what the situation. [Roll Eyes]

That is a looong ways to be shooting at something with sharp teeth and claws. [Eek!]

I originally spotted this bear from 200-220 yards, and would of stalked closer than the 130 I did end up shooting from, but he either heard me or smelled me, and stopped feeding, turning towards me. Of the 13 black bears I've shot, this was the 2nd furthest shot yet.

Good hunting (and this was just a joke, don't anybody go nuts) [Smile]

[ 09-23-2003, 01:54: Message edited by: todbartell ]

23 September 2003, 10:50

lhonda

Quote: "Would I take a 590 yard shot on a bear? No way, never, doesn't matter what the situation".

Glad to hear that. My opinion of you as a hunter has improved considerably. Strangely quiet from your ridiculously-long-distance-shooting fan club, though, I note. [Smile]

But 7 feet? Looking at the guy, you sure you're not spinning another yarn?

Leighton

23 September 2003, 10:52

todbartell

quote:
Originally posted by lhonda:
But 7 feet? Looking at the guy, you sure you're not spinning another yarn?

Hehehehe

23 September 2003, 11:55

Hot Core

Hey Todd, Thank you for the info on the Accubond. I know a lot of people are "hoping" for that kind of in-and-out performance from them.

23 September 2003, 13:30

Orion 1

quote:
Originally posted by lhonda:
I just can't say with any honesty that I'm impressed with any hunting skill, or the ethics behind a willingness to take such a shot.

Leighton

Others' hunting ethics are not for you to judge. You have no idea of the conditions of the hunt and you have no idea about the level of marksmanship ability of the person doing the shooting.

Maybe you should learn to shoot farther than you ever intend to? That would do two things.

1) Make you a better marksman, regardless of the distance at which you choose to kill game.

2) Give you some credibility from which to launch judgement.

25 September 2003, 18:33

lhonda

We differ in opinion; I can live with that. I still contend that for the conditions and circumstance originally desribed, a 590 yard shot would have been absurd and unethical. Period. Argue away if you feel the need, but nothing you say will make me change my mind on that point, same goes the other way for you, I'm sure. I stated my feeling, you yours. There it is. Any questions?

Leighton

27 September 2003, 17:14

KuduKing

A new record for most controversies in a Single Topic: MatchKings for Game, Absurd-Range Hunting and Trophy Belittlement !!!!

Nice shot Todd on one helluva nice dog, ah bear. Congrats.

[ 09-27-2003, 08:14: Message edited by: KuduKing ]

27 September 2003, 17:31

Gator1

I think that all of Todds story is true. When he shot at the Bear he thought it was a seven footer at 590 yards. In reality it was only 130 yards. [Wink]

27 September 2003, 17:46

Cole

Is shooting game at 500 yards hunting ? OR something else?

27 September 2003, 20:41

B17G

I think it is important to take people's words on what they do. It is called trust.

I always give people respect and trust them until they give me a reason not to anymore.

Some of us now look a little foolish, defending " a 590 yd shot" from the doubters.

It is them we owe an apology to.

They were right, we were wrong.

Just as a note, want to explain any logical reason for telling a bunch of BS to those that respected your words, and abilities??

28 September 2003, 09:06

lhonda

Gator, bravo; robust laughs.

Seafire, you're a gentleman.

Leighton

28 September 2003, 03:43

Duckear

quote:
Originally posted by KuduKing:
A new record for most controversies in a Single Topic: MatchKings for Game, Absurd-Range Hunting and Trophy Belittlement !!!!

If he had only done it with a push-feed Remington!

28 September 2003, 05:00

boilerroom

tod

Good one. I didnt want to spoil your fun and was having too much of a good time waiting for you to drop the bomb. [Big Grin]

You should of said you were using open sights. [Big Grin]

28 September 2003, 06:30

Middle Age Fat Man

For those of you who have not had the experience of tracking of a wounded bear in thick alders, go ahead and try it sometime.

Happy to see the shooter has his bear.

However I would pass before taking a longggg shot on a bear. Too much can happen before you find them. Tracking your bear with the light of AA maglight starts to get into the realm of a spiritual experience.

28 September 2003, 13:17

Customstox

Tod,
Thanks for the laugh. I think you proved one thing here other than you have devilish sense of humor. We take OUR opinions way too seriously when it comes to discussions regarding other peoples actions.

Nice bear and have a good weekend. [Smile]

28 September 2003, 14:34

Gatehouse

Tod

You finally came clean, eh? [Smile]

This WAS one of your funniest posts! [Smile]

I've been pissing myself with laughter for quite awhile, especially since you couldn't log on here for awhile!! [Big Grin]

Like I said before, you are a shit disturber [Wink]

PS, Remember that I hope your Dad has beer next time I come by your area... [Razz]