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Crocodile Hunter Killed
04 September 2006, 10:03
VarmintGuyCrocodile Hunter Killed
Steve Irwin - the "Crocodile Hunter" apparently has been killed in Northern Australia!
He reportedly was killed when a Sting Ray "stabbed" him in the chest with its stinger.
This information was obtained by me via Matt Drudges Radio Show at 2247 hours (Mountain Time) on Sunday September 3rd.
I kind of liked this guy and his enthusiasm!
Unfortunately he was killed doing what he loved!
I know he had a young son and I send my condolences to his wife, family and close friends!
Shame this.
Hold into the wind
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04 September 2006, 19:19
wapiti7What a sad day, steve sure did a lot for all of us with his extensive knowledge. I know that my wife and I will miss watching him.......wapiti7
04 September 2006, 20:35
fla3006I think this is very sad too. Apparently the African Forum moderator doesn't think so. He deleted my post on Steve Irwin despite the fact that many of Steve's programs were about Africa and its fauna.
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04 September 2006, 21:53
David CulpepperMy prayers go out to his family and friends. I did learn some stuff watching his show. However, the way his was all ways handling the dangerous animals it was going to happen eventually. I could never figure him out whenever he saw a dangerous snake or something he had to rush and pick it up.
04 September 2006, 23:15
Paul BIt's official. Apparently the stingray's spine pierced Irwin's heart and that's what killed him.
Paul B.
04 September 2006, 23:30
Allan DeGrootManner of death: accidental (wild animal)
Mechanism of death, Venomous spike transected the heart.
summary cause, Death by misadventure.
If forced to guess what would kill him I would have guessed: (In this order)
1) neurotoxic poisoning via envenomation (I.E. snake bite)
2) Exanguination, via traumatic amputation of a limb (croc)
3) Impact trauma via helicopter crash
Getting stabbed in the heart by a StingRay?
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04 September 2006, 23:52
700 nitrothat guy was 100% anti hunting.....!
oh well.
05 September 2006, 01:00
OldsargeHe didn't like anglers or spearfishermen, either. Another bunny-hugger bites the dust.
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05 September 2006, 01:15
gerrys375700Nitro -Oldsarge:
You two guys have restored an old man's sanity! When I told a neighbor just exactly what you guys have said I was denounced and suggestions made that I needed a guardian. He was a conservationist! (as I was told) I always had the impression anyway that he was provoking dangerous critters -and that sooner or later the odds would catch up with him. As a "veteran" of a poisonous snake bite (copperhead when I was 6) I thought it would be a snake that would catch up with him. What I never liked was that this guy, for money, was giving people the impression that dangerous critters really weren't that dangerous. I'm sorry for a new widow and two small children but it is a simple fact that the odds caught up at last. (I never understood why there wasn't a general revulsion against him when he held his own infant son in one arm while he enticed a huge croc (on land) with a piece of meat in the other hand)
05 September 2006, 02:29
p dog shooterI knew that something was going to catch him but I thought it was going to be a croc or a snake. Well I guess I was wrong.
We all take chances no matter what we do some are just more dangerous then others.
We all know that if you do something long enough it is going to catch up to you. climb rocks long enough your going to take a fall, ride bikes long enough your going to take a spill< Hunt DG long enough your most likley going to get caught, ect ect.
We all hope that getting caught doing what we like doesn't kill us some times it does some times it results in hospital stay or just a few cuts and scraps.
I have scars to show for some of the things I have done. So far none of them have killed me.
Heres to living a long life enjoying what we do.
05 September 2006, 03:06
Ackley Improved UserThis guy was very ANTI-SPORTSMAN. Yet, sportmens' monies have perserved the wildlife so that he could make a living being a flake on TV (almost always over-the-top, IMO). I feel bad for his family, but he usually walked on the edge. This time he went too close, and his risky behavior caught up with him.
05 September 2006, 03:10
308SakoMy heart goes out to his widow and small children whom would be better served by his presence than his absense. But when you expand the focus and look at what Mr Irwin stood for and what he was about, some of that conflicts with what I believe to be a more normal approach to things wild. I learned at a very young age that playing with fire results in burns.
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05 September 2006, 04:11
30378I hate to see anyone prematurely leave this earth. It has been a wonderful place for most of us. However there are some ground rules you have to play by. If you play with fire, you will get burned. Exposure to the wild was his signature and how he chose to make his living. As I grow older, I ask myself very often, why put yourself in that situation?
Be cool Steve. We are all on our way.
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05 September 2006, 04:13
Frans DiepstratenFrom what I've seen from him on TV, it was only a matter of time before an end like this would find him.
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05 September 2006, 05:38
duffy4I am down in Australia and all the TV stations are doing tribute shows about him. He was well loved down here. There is talk about weather to have a "state Funeral" for him. He was well known in the US and Canada as well. He was a character and did a lot towards the "consrevation" effort. I never heard him put down hunters or fishermen so I'll not call him down for that.
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05 September 2006, 06:01
kudu56I watched his shows until I heard his put down of hunters. He publicly denounced hunting on several occasions.
05 September 2006, 06:19
PumpkinheaverHe was what he was but I'm still sad for his kids.
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05 September 2006, 06:23
FjoldIf you can't say anything nice.........
I feel sorry for his kids.
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05 September 2006, 07:30
MrHawgHe's just like the Grizzly Man, where years of carelessness and over-confidence finally caught up to him. I always thought he'd get his head squished by a crock, or bit in the ass by a cobra, but a stingray? Who'd a thunk it? I did enjoy watching him on TV though and even if he was anti hunting (I don't know if he really was) his shows were entertaining and sometimes educational. He certainly did more for wildlife and education than the "Grizzly Man". But, he played with fire too long and got burned. Now we got a damn killer stingray on the loose.

05 September 2006, 08:16
VarmintGuyNow Jacques Cousteau was a notorious "greenie" as well as being french!
He advocated no fishing in any of the earths waters!
No food fishing or catch and release either.
Yes the MSM does try to hide "certain aspects" and beliefs of their "favorites"!
Still I liked this guys intensity and enthusiasm!
I have dealt with "conservation nuts" for decades and other than despising certain of their ideals and tactics I still think they are human - and deserving of respect when they are tragically killed WAY before their time!
As far as I know none of Mr. Irwins attitudes and intentions towards my Hunting pursuits ever effected me one way or the other!
His membership (or non-membership) in any anti-Hunting campaign or organization is not known to me.
I mourn for him none the less.
I also share the sense of loss that MILLIONS of Australians and TENS OF MILLIONS of Americans feel about his passing.
Green to the extreme or not, LOTS of people liked him!
And I won't share "the day of his passing" with those who denounce him or speak ill of him.
And also this - I have always LOVED Australians and Australia so Mr. Irwin had that great attribute in his favor to begin with!
Oye! Oye! Oye!
Rest in Peace Mr. Irwin.
Hold into the wind
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05 September 2006, 11:36
btglferAmen, VarmintGuy
05 September 2006, 12:36
schmausI liked the guy, not that I knew him personally but just the way he was on tv. I am curious to hear about the reaction of some people from Australia.
05 September 2006, 16:20
ErikDquote:
Originally posted by schmaus:
I am curious to hear about the reaction of some people from Australia.
Have a look at some of the Aussie hunting forums around. Basically, they all think Irwin was a commercialized, anti-hunting wanker that did more damage than good in reality...

Here's a nice summary from the Aussia forum here on AR:
quote:
Originally posted by BwanaBob:
I, for one, am not glad to see Steve Irwin dead, there are very few people that I would wish that upon, and I offer my condolensces to his family and feel for their loss.
However I am glad to see an end to his influence on Australian attitudes towards wildlife and hunting. And now that he is dead, let us not turn him into something that he wasn't - he was a TV personality, and nothing more.
I am surprised that so many people, from all around the world, were duped by his self-proclaimed 'wildlife warrior' status. A true conservationist would never have treated wildlife in the manner that he did - it was all for show and to bolster his image and his income. And accordingly, he rarely showed wildlife in a true and accurate light.
As has already been mentioned, in this forum, there was one episode where he antagonised a red-bellied black snake to the point where it became very aggressive. Red-bellied black snakes are, in reality, quite timid and will avoid a confrontation with humans. In another episode he had an Egyptian Cobra cornered and, after aggravating the snake for a very long time, said' Crikey, this bloke is aggressive!" Are these realistic and accurate portrayals of these animals? Hell no!
The episode where he released the feral pig into the Australian wilds shows, clearly, that he did not understand (or didn't have any real regard for) the Australian ecology. Feral pigs are a HUGE, HUGE problem in Australia and are a serious threat to many endangered animals and plants. No thinking conservationist would have released a feral pig, nor any other feral animal, and then have the nerve to show the world that he did it! If any other Australian had released a feral pig he/she would have been prosecuted so fast it would have made their head spin.
The episodes from Africa where just a joke. There was one where they crawled up to film a large number of nile crocodiles feeding on a hippo carcass. Steve, the hero, was bragging about how the lives of the camera crew were his responsiblity and that they had to do exactly as he told them to survive. In reality, there would have been an armed National Parks Ranger, a Game Scout of a PH standing by. There is no way that any African government would allow a high-profile, international celebrity to be eaten on film. Imagine what that would have done for their tourism industry? Would they have turned him loose to do whatever he wanted without a chaperon and some local knowledge and advice? Hell No!
Then, armed only with a Dolphin torch he sets off into the African night to find a large maned lion standing nicely for the camera - only problem was that the lion was illuminated by a very powerful spotlight (and not a dolphin torch) and looked to me like he was a little too well kept, too well fed and quite used to the spotlight. Talk about 'Canned' lion hunts!
And what about the great white shark episodes - swimming in his khaki shorts and shirt? Wasn't that just another stunt to bolster his image at the expense of serious wildlife documentary making?
I could go on and on, but will leave it there. As I said at the start, lets not turn him into something that he wasn't. He was a showman who took unnecessary and foolish risks and the odds caught up with him. If there is one message that Steve Irwin left behind it is how NOT to handle, treat and approach wildlife, (and not just stingrays).
Oh, one more point that I would like to make. As an Australian, I was always deeply embarrassed by his exaggerated and ridiculous portrayal of the Aussie Ocker image. I hope that very few of the international members think that all Australians behave that way, because very, very few of us do!
05 September 2006, 16:58
meteThe incident with his infant son and the croc was quickly passed off as not a dangerous thing !! The wife said the child really liked it ,yet he was no more than 1 year old too young to understand anything !...The 'playing with wild animals' spreads because of people like him/ I saw recently a tv progam where a family played with a wild dolphin.They fed it ,went into the water to hug and pet it. At one point it attacked the mother .She was so surprized but certainly deserved it !!

05 September 2006, 17:40
wapiti7Maybe we can send all of our countries most beloved celebrities on a "swim with the stingrays" vacation! Like...al gore, bill clinton, janet reno, the bradys, mrs feinstein and everyone in hollywood! What a great vacation that would be! Sting little stingrays sting!!!!!!!...................wapiti7
05 September 2006, 19:16
Jarrodquote:
Originally posted by VarmintGuy:
Now Jacques Cousteau was a notorious "greenie" as well as being french!
He advocated no fishing in any of the earths waters!
No food fishing or catch and release either.
Yes the MSM does try to hide "certain aspects" and beliefs of their "favorites"!
Still I liked this guys intensity and enthusiasm!
I have dealt with "conservation nuts" for decades and other than despising certain of their ideals and tactics I still think they are human - and deserving of respect when they are tragically killed WAY before their time!
As far as I know none of Mr. Irwins attitudes and intentions towards my Hunting pursuits ever effected me one way or the other!
His membership (or non-membership) in any anti-Hunting campaign or organization is not known to me.
I mourn for him none the less.
I also share the sense of loss that MILLIONS of Australians and TENS OF MILLIONS of Americans feel about his passing.
Green to the extreme or not, LOTS of people liked him!
And I won't share "the day of his passing" with those who denounce him or speak ill of him.
And also this - I have always LOVED Australians and Australia so Mr. Irwin had that great attribute in his favor to begin with!
Oye! Oye! Oye!
Rest in Peace Mr. Irwin.
Hold into the wind
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05 September 2006, 19:41
DocI admit that when Irwin first became popular I was watching his show, but I got fed up with it after awhile....way to commercial.
I appreciate his respect for wildlife, but Irwin was most definitely an anti-hunter and stated the fact many times over the years.
I think it is sad that he leaves behind a family. My partner here at work has a spouse that was a big fan of his. She said to me moments ago that she was a wreck ever since she heard the news, and asked the same of me. She said, "look at all he's done." So there's definitely perception out there. I'm with BwanaBob on this one. Irwin was nothing more than a head zookeeper that became popular and outspoken. His enthusiasm level seemed to rise as the years went by, and why wouldn't they...it's called ratings. I saw a documentary on him a few years back and he was actually kind of an a$$hole to his coworkers. His ego was shining through, perhaps his true colors. This was a "behind the scenes" show, where he didn't always know when the camera was around I guess.
When he bounced his young baby around in the croc pen, that did it for me. Some may have said his wife was ok with it but find the video and watch it...she looked more concerned than anything if you ask me. He claimed, "at no time was my baby in any danger." BS.
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06 September 2006, 07:24
duffy4As far as how Australians feel about him, well he may be getting a "State funneral" . There are some bloaks on the Australian section of this board who are bad mouthing him and I take that with the usual grain of salt.
I have never heard he was "anti-hunter" or at least I never heard of him leading a protest or appearing in the media as a spokesman for them. If he said he didn't think people should hunt or something like that it is his opinion and he is entitled to it. Doesn't make him a rabid anti-hunter in my books.
Robin down under
06 September 2006, 10:06
Ackley Improved UserI herd today that he came-up over the back of the stringray and grabbed its shoulders - no wonder he got stung in the chest. He made his living hamming-it-up on camera by getting way too close to potentially dangerous wild animals. To make money, he knew he was taking risks, big risks. If you drive too fast, sooner or later you run out of luck. As sportsmen, we know this is true. Why all the surprise and pity?
06 September 2006, 17:23
bulldog563Gotta agree with Bwana Bob.... There are few things that piss me off more then some dipshit running around harassing animals all the while claiming to be a conservationist!!! There is no doubt in my mind that Steve Irwin and Tim Treadwell did FAR more harm then they did good for the animals they claimed to love so much. I wonder how many people and animals will be killed as a result of their foolish antics and those who try to emulate them.

Oh yeah. Didn't Irwin get killed when he swam over the top of a very large stingray with his cameraman standing directly in front. Anyone think the stingray felt trapped and responded in defense. And this idiot claimed to know how animals think... What a joke. And now he leaves his wife and three children without a father. DISGUSTING!!!
06 September 2006, 19:44
Paul TunkisHe was a jacka$$.
He was very anti-hunting, I've read quotations of remarks he made. PETA has nothing on him.
That we shouldn't gloat over his finally "getting it" ala Treadwell, read an anti-hunting blog some time. Those creeps wax poetic every time a hunter is killed. Don't expect me to have sympathy for people who just as soon see me dead.
To bad for his kids, but maybe they're better off. Taking an infant into a croc enclosure would get your butt into jail via Child Protective Services in a few jurisdictions I could think of, besides being insanely irresponcible.
He probably has put thousands of people at risk of being killed or seriously injuried by his gross misrepresentations of the unacceptablly dangerous nature of his stunts. Yes, he got away with it, for a while...
Let's put this guy into prospective: He was interested in one thing and one thing only: Himself.
The down side is that he will now be elevated to some kind of saint-hood in the enviro-wacko pantheon.
06 September 2006, 20:57
conchoI'm sorry for his family , but I knew he was living on borrowed time , never thought of a sting raw doing him in , my guess was as many others snake or crocks . I will miss him .
06 September 2006, 21:18
Kevin ReedA couple of young children and a wife are now without a father and a husband that THEY loved very much. Very Sad!!!
Kevin
07 September 2006, 10:06
duffy4I actually don't know a lot about him but lets see. Seems he was well liked and highly thought of by millions in Australia and the world.
And there are several on here and Germaine Greer who didn't like him.
I think I'll give him the benifit of the doubt and tip back a VB and say "Here's to you Steve"!
Robin down under
07 September 2006, 21:24
Brain1At least he died doing what he obviously loved. That is worth something. He will be missed by his family and fans.
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09 September 2006, 00:17
WhiteeyetattooJust curious, does anyone know if he was a vegetarian? Some of these animal huggers seem to frequent burger joints.
09 September 2006, 20:06
M 98Icannot belive how brain washed some AR members
have become....
this guy was an RAMPANT anti hunter, anti everything but him self, his American wife was not to far behind...i do not have any thing against some one being anti hunting/anti guns etc etc, each and every one is free to make there choices, but at the same time no one has the right to say hunting is destructice...as Steve Erwin did, what more he used his position to propell this lie and was a pretty potent voice against the FEDERAL GOVERMENT REJECTING the proposal by the NORTHERN teritory goverment to open up crocodile hunting to the safari industry
this guy was a jerk of unprecidented proportions
self inflated ego which needed to be pricked...and it was
THIS GUY WAS SUCH A TWO FACED HIPOCRITE, he bemoaned hunters, but at the sametime it was okay for him to globe trot and annoy /pester wildlife around the world for his own gain
i would not wish this upon any one, but at the same time i did not loose any sleep over him going to where he did and have found a new love and respect for STINGRAYS!
STINGERS 1
ERWIN 0
Daniel
09 September 2006, 20:13
M 98DUFFY
it would help if you knew what you were talking about, if you dont know what you are talking about KEEP YOUR MOUNTH SHUT , otherwise you will make a fool of your self
take it from me the guy was a DIP STICK...do you understand what that means
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10 September 2006, 00:53
Alberta Canuckquote:
Originally posted by Kevin Reed:
A couple of young children and a wife are now without a father and a husband that THEY loved very much. Very Sad!!!
Kevin
Sad? Perhaps. BUT, very much a part of life. Few get to choose the time of their going. It is no worse for his family than for thousands of other families throughout the world who lost loved ones on the same day. But that IS life. It will happen to EVERY family, including yours and mine. Mourn for us all.
Most who truly care about their families don't spend their days putting themselves in very real danger just for money, unless they are colossally stupid, terminally egocentric, or both.
No one gets out of this world alive, but responsible parents of young children can at least use their heads long enough to give their children a good start on maturity before they take totally unnecessary risks.
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10 September 2006, 03:41
Madgoatquote:
Most who truly care about their families don't spend their days putting themselves in very real danger just for money, unless they are colossally stupid, terminally egocentric, or both.
Does this include fire fighters, police officers and US service men and women?
Circle of life....whether you're a desk jockey, airline pilot, mail man or professional wildlife harasser.
MG