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Western New York Buck
27 November 2007, 22:13
Aspen Hill AdventuresWestern New York Buck
Here's my buck taken on the first morning of the firearm opener for Unit 8A. He's a farm land buck and weighed live somewhere in the 180 to 200 pound range.
I also took one doe, she is the first one on the left on the buck pole. My buck is also pictured.
Both were taken with my CVA muzzleloader at around 60 yards or so. The buck got a broken shoulder and the doe a broken neck. I used Hornady sabots (.45 cal) and 110 grains of loose T7FFG. I am very pleased with the muzzleloader, it is a very accurate firearm. The doe was facing me straight on for the neck shot.
The buck, while not huge, is the largest whitetail I have ever taken. I am having it mounted and was stunned at just how large bucks can get in that area. The taxidermy shop was loaded with fresh racks from 160 and up, over 200 inches.
~Ann
27 November 2007, 23:09
PWN375Ann,
Nice deer and good shooting. Now your freezer is full and you have a mount for the wall. That was a great hunt.
Perry
28 November 2007, 05:11
Docthat buck has a beautiful cape. love that red hair on the skull cap. he's got a long snout too. good goin!
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns
28 November 2007, 05:38
69deerBeatiful buck Ann!
28 November 2007, 06:27
Fish30114Good shooting and a good looking buck--and doe too.
Congrats Ann!
28 November 2007, 06:35
CanuckWTG Ann! Congrats on your nice buck!

Cheers,
Canuck
28 November 2007, 07:08
Mike_DettorreAnn,
Very nice deer.
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2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
28 November 2007, 07:22
CRUSHERhey whats with yankee hanging deer by one back foot? is that a northeast thing or what? never see that here. always both back feet or the head here.
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28 November 2007, 18:12
bwanamrmCongrats Ann!
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28 November 2007, 18:30
Bob in TXHey Ann,
Well done with the smokepole!!! That is a perfect 8-point!! That buck and an extra doe for the freezer.........life is good!!
Congrats,
Bob
28 November 2007, 20:12
Aspen Hill AdventuresThanks for the comments guys, incidentally the buck is 2.5 years old. I killed a 6 point buck here in Vermont last year that was also 2.5 years old. The body and antler size was amazingly different with the mountain buck being much smaller than the farmland model.
The small deer on the end is a button buck shot by one of the youths out that day.
I think that muzzleloader cost me all of $60. All I did with it was a trigger job and added a Weaver. I've killed 7 deer with it now, naturally all one-shot kills!
~Ann
29 November 2007, 02:45
DocAnn, I would certainly not want to overstep any bounds, but allow me to throw in my 2 cents on a pose for that nice colored buck.
I can see that deer on a McKenzie 9600 upright left turn, to show off that longer brow tine. Some deer have nicer hair than others and yours is a beaut. Upright manikins show more color in the neck, IMO. The left turn would be eye catching because as you look into the antlers, that longer brow tine will show better.
Just me thinkin out loud. It's your deer and you have to be happy with it. I'm diggin the color though.
Here's an example.
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns
29 November 2007, 03:12
Outdoor WriterGood job, Ann. -TONY
Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer"
29 November 2007, 03:38
Wendell ReichGood job Ann, nice 8.
29 November 2007, 17:01
tontoAnn
Nice buck! Got to loose that scope off your muzzleloader you are a hillbilly now not a flatlander. Please dont tell me its stainless with a plastic stock.

Nice job.
Dean
29 November 2007, 19:06
DMBBeautiful Buck for sure!!!
Good shootin'....
Don
29 November 2007, 19:17
Aspen Hill Adventures
LOL, Dean it's not stainless but it does have a plastic stock (yuck), I would like to put it on wood someday since it is such a good shooter. I leave the scope on 3 power too, just good enough to help my aging eyes!
Doc,
I like your suggestion, I was debating the height of the ceilings I have (8 foot) with the style of mount and think a lower head stance turned to the left would look better in the house.
What was neat about the buck is his 'red head' smelled of pine.
~Ann
30 November 2007, 16:52
philny1Just noticed your post.
Congrats.
Great buck.
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30 November 2007, 17:00
philny1BTW; I hunt in 8X, along the PA line.
Used to live near Lake Ontario, east of where you were hunting. They do get some bruisers in the areas just south of the lake.
Lots of apple orchards, and the winters are less severe in certain areas along the lake.
Phil
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30 November 2007, 17:58
hikerbumVery nice looking deer. WNY is great deer country. I took mine this year in 9N along with my son taking his first deer. Great opening day.
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
30 November 2007, 20:17
chainNice job Ann, It will make a great mount.
Windage and elevation, Mrs. Langdon, windage and elevation...
01 December 2007, 08:10
Tim HeraldVery nice ...congrats!
Good Hunting,
Tim Herald
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01 December 2007, 08:13
308SakoAnn, That is a wonderful NY buck as well you know. They cannot all make the book, but for the area and conditions... What a Buck.
Congratulations.
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01 December 2007, 18:04
Plinker603Good God, but that's SUH-WEEEET! You have my complete and total admiration. Good job hunting and shooting.
Plinker
aim small, hit small
05 December 2007, 08:30
WPNVery, very nice. Muzzleloader season buck no less. Well done.
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