08 September 2007, 08:19
James CardwellSauer
Just come by a J P Sauer 16X8X57 believed to be build in 1944. Anyone have info on this drilling? Value?
08 September 2007, 15:54
BurkhardHard to believe that the drilling was built in 1944. At this time of the war, there was no production of hunting rifles.
Is the drilling in 8x57 IR or IRS?
Burkhard
09 September 2007, 09:51
James CardwellBurkhard, It has 8x57 J.R. on the rib. On the barrells it has KRUPP-LAUFSTAUL. Maybe you can help me on another rifle I just aquired. Please check medium bores for my post on a Merkel. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, James
09 September 2007, 09:54
James CardwellSorry, Burkhard took a better look and its IR not JR.
09 September 2007, 10:28
luv2safariIR is JR...The old German I looks like a J and stands for Infantry.
I have seen drillings produced in 1943 and 1944. I looked at one made in 1944 two days ago, a Sauer made receiver in 16ga and 7X57R. We took it apart, and the innerds were beautifully finished! The wood was very plain...VERY plain! It also had a sprung extractor on the main extractor for shooting regular rimless 7X57 ammo. I would say that some fine gunmakers were still making drillings to order for the very high-ups in the military and the Nazi Party right until Germany's fall. Many of these guns were not made in factories, after all.
15 October 2007, 07:42
tomo577burkhard
contrary to what many believe, production of sporting guns & rifles continued throughout the war. and not just for nazi higher ups. i have or have owned sauer shotguns and bsw ( simson) shotguns commercially proofed during the war years. also a brenneke rifle and a few pistols too.
seriously, commercial production continued but at a greatly reduced rate.
currently i have a 12 ga ejector sauer marked "geco" on the barrel proofed in 1945
and a merkel o/u sideplated boxlock ejector shotgun in the white also 1945 production.
i think they started making these 12 ga guns for the new authorities that were advancing from the west maybe ?
19 October 2007, 18:15
richjNot mine.. a few week ago at the range.
Sauer 16-7x57mm. Hensoldt scope
21 October 2007, 09:48
luv2safariTomo,
I think these guns were chambered for 65mm 12 ga ammo, as were the 12ga/9,3X74R Survival Drillings. They seem to have been producing a fair amount of 12ga drillings starting about 1939 or 1940. I, also, owned a 1945 GECO (Sauer) drilling in 16/8X57IR. It was typical of that vintage...excellent metal finish but very ordinary wood.
richj,
You have the right way of thinking.

If it doesn't have THREE BARRELS, something is missing.
