Buddy of mine just picked up a nice old JP Sauer hammerless/top lever cape gun. It has double triggers. He says the caliber is 9X74R. Does this sound correct? I am not familiar with this caliber, but I guess that is NOT the same as the 9.3x74r. He said it came with dies and some reloaded ammo using 240gr hard cast in formed .444marlin brass. P.S. The other barrel is 12ga, would this be 2 1/2 or 2 3/4" shells?

There was a 9X74R Forster.

George

Any idea where I might find more info, I am coming up empty.

Try using Google.

In five minutes, I found that the 9x74R Förster was released in 1919, that CH4D makes dies, and that Qual-Cart offers cases.

George

I tried that for the last hour, sadly those links don't seem to go anywhere or they are in german. Very strange that there is not something out there that gives a little basic history, ballistic info etc.

Well, not everything is on the 'net; only what someone has bothered to upload.

Google has a translate feature, although it is admittedly weak.

The 9x74R Förster is an obsolete round, and you will have to find a collector (or collector's forum) to continue your research (or better yet, let your friend do his own legwork).

George

He was apparently quite confused about what he had and sent me on a wild goose chase. Its all good though, I went to his place to see it, it is actually a 2 3/4" 12ga and 9X57r. He had brass, loaded rounds and dies. We shot it and it is great, he got it on trade and did not love it, SO I BOUGHT IT! (and I DO love it!) Will post pics later in a proper thread.

Now you have something!

I love cape guns and have two, presently. They have a certain grace that a BBF doesn't.

DON'T shoot heavy loads in it. Stick with 1 1/8oz field loads and factory spec rifle loads.

I'm excited to see the photos.

Here is the link to the gun

http://forums.accuratereloadin...5105333/m/1431038371

The old 9x74 Sauer/Förster has the same case as 400/350 Rigby.

The 9.3x74 is almost certainly the current calibre still loaded by Norma (cartridge and cases) and many other European makers.I have two double rifles sxs and stack barrel and find them easy to shoot with near .375H&H performance.To my knowledge there is no rimless version