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06 September 2012, 07:33
Jim M.
Claw Mounts?
Reommendations about who to have install claw mounts on a drilling? Does using a scope with a rail provide a lower scope mount to the barrels?
Thanks!
06 September 2012, 08:40
mdstewart
quote:
Originally posted by Jim M.:
Reommendations about who to have install claw mounts on a drilling? Does using a scope with a rail provide a lower scope mount to the barrels?
Thanks!


If your drilling already has the claw bases but no mounts/rings, then I would use JJ Perodeau at Champlins.

If your gun had no bases, then I would make my decison based upon the manufacturer. If if is a Merkel, I would have Herbert at Merkel USA do the installation. If Heym or Kreighoff, then I would contact their stateside representative. If a lesser known manufacturer, then I believe that JJ is your best bet.

I personally prefer the Recknagel swing-out mounts over claws mounts. They hold their zero better, generally, and are faster and simpler to use. I can also use a low mounted scope with the swing-out mounts.


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06 September 2012, 18:45
DM
quote:
I personally prefer the Recknagel swing-out mounts over claws mounts. They hold their zero better, generally, and are faster and simpler to use. I can also use a low mounted scope with the swing-out mounts.


Faster and simpler to use??? I find the motion of pushing something until it locks much faster and simpler that trying to get everything level, then having to swing it all into place while i turn a ring to lock it.

My "go to" drillings claw mount holds perfectly, and i've had it on/off God knows how mant times over the last 30 years. I have no idea how it could get better than that?

You don't consider this a low mounted scope???



I'm swing mount free now, and i'll not go back to them... the claws are just so much faster and easier for me to use.

DM
06 September 2012, 20:25
Lawdog
I had New England Custom Gun build claw rings for my combination gun. First rate work.


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18 September 2012, 09:56
N E 450 No2
I like claw mounts, and have used them a quite a bit. I also recommend JJ Perodeau, in Enid Oklahoma.

He installed Claw mounts on my Sauer 12x12x30/06 Drilling and on my 450/400 3 1/4" double rifle. In both cases worksmanship, return to zero, and eye relief was perfect, in every way.


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26 September 2012, 17:53
Vol717
Recknagel also makes an adaptor to convert drillings with claw bases to accept swing mounts at a much lower cost than claws. I have been told that the Euro hunters are beginning to prefer swing mounts over claws, but it is probably an effect of the difference in cost. I do like the speed of claw mounts, but over time the parts will wear out. With the Recknagel swing mount, it is simply a matter of knocking out the front socket and replacing it with a new one. With claw mounts it means custom work.


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26 September 2012, 22:47
luv2safari
They're replacing the older scopes with new ones, and the swing mount is much cheaper to use. This is what is driving a lot of the trend.

Swing mounts also wear at the pivot point. I've had several, and I don't see any reason to not use them. They work fine. They also allow for more flexibility in scope choice, as there is no big scope bell to pivot downward and have clear the barrel tops.
27 September 2012, 18:01
Heym SR20
You can a scope mounted lower without a rail and just a ring around the objective lense. But with a claw mount, the front ring will have to mounted at the front of the objective bell with the base mounted quite a long way down the barrel so as to get the correct eye relief.
28 September 2012, 10:19
luv2safari
Like on DM's and my little 16 &6.5X57 drilling. Wink



30 September 2012, 00:20
DM
OR this Krieghoff 16x16 - 30-06,



Boy, is this drilling accurate!



DM