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USFWS does not uplist lion to endangered!!!

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01 November 2014, 08:15
Matt Graham
USFWS does not uplist lion to endangered!!!
Thanks. Is this 4d rule for all African lion or all threatened species?


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01 November 2014, 17:24
ledvm
All.


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04 November 2014, 00:20
drongo
How does this differ from leopards requiring CITES approval?


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04 November 2014, 00:45
ledvm
It is basically the same as leopard on the surface...but the 4(d) rule (which is specifically written for lion) gives USF&W authority to deny import for many reasons hard to refute by a hunter, hunting operator, or even the country of export.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
14 April 2015, 10:59
Wink
I haven't been following this closely, so please excuse any misconceptions I may have. Does this mean that the hunter who goes to Africa and hunts a lion does not know if he will be able to import it into the USA until it actually gets to the border?


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15 April 2015, 17:20
ledvm
The answer is yes...but my understanding is thus far USF&W has NOT roadblocked any.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
25 August 2022, 19:56
Atkinson
A bit off the subject, but worth consideration is the canned hunt lions, or any animal for that matter, that is so condemned by most folks when in fact it may turn out to be the salvation of many species, if we look beyond the emotional approach to hunting?? Not offering an opinion, just suggesting a reasonable and possible approach for consideration and mind change perhaps as a last resort.


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