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The Plight of the Jags

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12 September 2011, 09:14
Steve Ahrenberg
The Plight of the Jags
Gentlemen,

I recently spent ten days fishing in some of the most remote parts of Bolivia, the fishing kinda sucked but that is not the point here. The point is the South American Jaguar.

First,
I would be at the front of the line if sport hunting AND retuning home with a legally hunted Jag were possible, it will only be possible someday if there are Jaguars in huntable populations in the South American jungles and rain forests.

The indigenous people's there destroy Jaguars at an alarming rate, all the boatmen we had, all the people I spoke to along the way had stories of killing "several" jaguars in their lifetimes. Their skins and skulls adorn restaurants, fishing camps, villages. They are EVERYWHERE you go.

If we as international sportsman put some effort into this, maybe........just maybe we may see LEGALLY hunted and imported Jags in a trophy room or two.

Kindest Regards,

Steve


Formerly "Nganga"
13 September 2011, 00:27
Crazyhorseconsulting
Man Steve, you got these folks sceered. Theys be fraid to say anything!!! shocker shocker

In all seriousness however, given the interest shown in hunting Leopards, if that same interest were directed toward jaguars, then thee might be more coordinated interest in saving the things.


Even the rocks don't last forever.



13 September 2011, 05:43
Steve Ahrenberg
CHC,
They aren't sceered, nobodies watchin. I think you might have missed my point, there seem to be Jaguars most everywhere down there (for now). My Point is that if CITES would allow importation, the indigenous people's could realize perhaps, 20-30 grand per cat. THEN.......they would get protection from themselves, based on one of the most fundamental human emotions. Greed.

But that's just me.


Formerly "Nganga"
13 September 2011, 06:01
Crazyhorseconsulting
Steve, I am agreeing with you in a twisted Texan sort of manner.

Leopards benefitted from the sport hunting/safari industry. Jaguars would also benefit in the same way.

If the PTB's concerning the hunting of Jaguars could be made understand that people would pump all sort's of funds into their countries economies for the chance of hunting/killing Jaguars, things might change.

The sceered part comes from the idea that Jaguars have been off the table for so long that few people really know the status of the animals in Mexico/Central America-South America.

Even though it came out sideways, I agree with and support your opinion on this issue.


Even the rocks don't last forever.



13 September 2011, 21:05
ledvm
Once the LCTF gets off of high-center and gets some money headed towards lion programs...I think we would love to take on the jaguar.


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23 September 2011, 21:27
Peter
Geez! I thought you guys were talking about the Jacksonville Jaguars!
Peter


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24 September 2011, 05:21
Crazyhorseconsulting
There is an article in the latest issue of the Smithsonian magazine and one of the statements I noticed concerned protecting the Jaguars from hunting.

Is there any place in Mexico/Central or South America where Jaguars can be legally hunted?


Even the rocks don't last forever.