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07 April 2025, 00:23
foxhound
Lee Enfield Navy Arms Gibbs 45-70
I just picked one up, looked unused. I think it is a Summit model. I know why now. It refuses to load from the magazine, will shoot singles but have to almost slam the bolt shut. I am unfamiliar with these guns, but really like shooting it and how handy it is. I was wondering if headspace, the extractor, magazine or ??? is the issue.Any info or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
Rick


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07 April 2025, 04:32
Hipshoot
Not familiar with the Enfield version but I have a Navy Arms Siamese Mauser in .45-70 and it seems that Rim thickness is critical and I have to really slam the bolt home to feed.

Don't know if this may be a problem with the Enfield version.

Hip
08 April 2025, 04:16
Bobster
I have a Siamese Mauser in 8x52R and shoot brass from Buffalo Arms made from .45-70. They told me they have to thin the rims to aid feeding and headspace properly. So I would presume the same for the .45-70 conversion is needed or the extractor needs mods.

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Originally posted by Hipshoot:
Not familiar with the Enfield version but I have a Navy Arms Siamese Mauser in .45-70 and it seems that Rim thickness is critical and I have to really slam the bolt home to feed.

Don't know if this may be a problem with the Enfield version.

Hip

08 April 2025, 19:40
dpcd
I have built many 45-70s on #1 Enfields. Some of them with one piece stocks, like the original Lee, which had a one piece stock. It was the British who put the two piece stock on the Lee Patent rifle. And Sharps made the first ones; a fact now widely known. The Sharps Lee had a one piece stock. They did not build them requiring you to "thin" the rims; if it does not work, someone who understands Enfields needs to look at it.
Now, I know how they made these; since the 45-70 rim will not go through the receiver bolt opening, they machined out the receiver to allow that. I did not do that; I made brass with reduced diameter rims; NOT thinner ones.
Anyway, impossible to troubleshoot from the keyboard. And the Siamese and the Lee are like cats and iguanas; zero in common.
22 April 2025, 23:13
foxhound
Well, I checked the headspace, which is good. I got lucky and found a new, old stock magazine for it and now it runs as it should... Go figure. Thanks for all the input fellas!
Cheers
Rick


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