Looks like they finally got around to loading the x62 and they're claiming 2,360 fps with a 286 gr bullet.

http://www.hornady.com/store/9.3X62-ammo/

$64 / 20 rounds is a bit tough.

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$64 / 20 rounds is a bit tough.

look here $49 a box from Midway!

Glad that Hornady is providing cartridges for the 9,3x62.

Loaded shells (and really anything to do with the hobby) have gotten very expensive from all sources it would seem. Good to have more elegant tools to find best prices. Here is one:

http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/9.3x62mm_Mauser

Here is a general tool for searching adds on major forums (in a search for 6.8 SPC as an example):

http://www.elitedealseeker.com...t=15&function=Search

I think the more important point is this: Hornady's ammo production is an indicator of the increasing popularity of the 9.3x62 in the US. With luck, we'll see more manufacturers releasing rifles in the caliber in the near future.

Browning already makes the Long-trac BAR in 9.3 for the European driven-game market; I would think it would do decently here. A stainless Ruger 77 would also be a very nice choice.

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Originally posted by analog_peninsula:
I think the more important point is this: Hornady's ammo production is an indicator of the increasing popularity of the 9.3x62 in the US. With luck, we'll see more manufacturers releasing rifles in the caliber in the near future.

Browning already makes the Long-trac BAR in 9.3 for the European driven-game market; I would think it would do decently here. A stainless Ruger 77 would also be a very nice choice.

I agree - This is good news for 9,3x62 owners!

My reload w/ IMR-4320 gets me almost 2,400 fps with a 286 NPT from a 24" barrel, so this Hornady load seems about right to me.

I rarely shoot factory ammo, especially high priced stuff like the Hornady 9.3X62. But, I am very glad to see an American Co. loading 9.3X62; I already use Hornady 9.3 Bullets, and I would like to try their brass. The cheap Graf Brass has been great, but I'm always ready to try something new.

Nominal velocity of the 286 gr. bullet is 2430 fps. If anything the Hornady's may be a tad slow.

I'm hoping Santa has plans for empty brass and bullets with a cannelure in the right place all in bright red boxes.

A Ruger Hawkeye in 9.3x62 would be very tempting.

At the time of it's greatest use the 9.3x62s velocity loaded with the 286 grain bullet was a sedate 2,175 to 2,250fps. Old Pondoro wrote that it did not need to be loaded to higher velocities since it killed well as it was.

Hi Will

Nominal 9,3 velocity is 2380fps- so hornady are about right. This is the speed of Norma, RWS, Lapua and S&B. PMP loads to 2280fps with the 286grn bullet.

Part of the 'problem' is that ammo is limited to 47,800psi- Of course, that is part of the sucess as well becuase you never have sticky extraction at such low pressures.

It would make considerable difference if you could load up to say 30-06 pressures. Adds another 150fps with most powders and up to 250fps with a couple of the new HD ball powders.

2340 and 2380fps from my two 9.3x62s.

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Originally posted by Will:
Nominal velocity of the 286 gr. bullet is 2430 fps. If anything the Hornady's may be a tad slow.

Is Hornady running traditional pressure or modern pressure?

Has anyone got any field experience with the 286gr hornady 9.3 cal bullet on big game such as large deer, kudu, large pigs, Aussie buffalo / bulls / donkey etc?

I have just got a packet (my favourite lapua megas have gone to $2 per bullet!) & I wonder if they will perform like the Normas, lapuas etc or are softer like the Speer.

I don't own a 9.3x62 atm, but this is really great news to all that loves the cartridge

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Has anyone got any field experience with the 286gr hornady 9.3 cal bullet on big game such as large deer, kudu, large pigs, Aussie buffalo / bulls / donkey etc?

I have just got a packet (my favourite lapua megas have gone to $2 per bullet!) & I wonder if they will perform like the Normas, lapuas etc or are softer like the Speer.

Naki:

If you look through the terminal bullet performance thread, you will see a test that Michel did for me with this bullet. Velocity was a bit lower, around 2250 fps, as I shoot this bullet in my 9,3X74R. They did quite well at that velocity. Our conclusion was that at that velocity they would work pretty well on thin skinned game. I would have no problem shooting these bullets in my 9,3X62 at around 2400 fps at thin skinned non dangerous game. However, for me anyway, if I was ever get a chance to hunt thick skinned/dangerous game, I would opt for a bit tougher bullet. It's one thing to have a bullet failure on an elk but I'm betting it's a whole different thing to have a bullet failure on a lion.

One other thought about the 286 grain Hornady 9,3 bullet. They really were designed for the 9,3X74R. When you seat them in the 9,3X62, you will find that the cannelure is not in the right place. It's way to far forward so, if you want to crimp the bullets in place, you have to seat the bullet to far into the case and you lose case capacity. I think you will find that the Woodleigh Protected Point works much better in that regard.

Shooter's Pro Shop is listing Nosler Safari Ammo in 9.3X62 loaded with a 286 gr Partition for $45/box.

http://shootersproshop.com/ind...h=71&product_id=1060

I've never tried it, but it looks like a good place to start for someone looking for factory ammo.

They can keep it. I'll roll my own.

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Originally posted by ForrestB:
Shooter's Pro Shop is listing Nosler Safari Ammo in 9.3X62 loaded with a 286 gr Partition for $45/box.

http://shootersproshop.com/ind...h=71&product_id=1060

I've never tried it, but it looks like a good place to start for someone looking for factory ammo.

Thanks! That looks like a particularly good deal, basically brass plus bullet.

I just saw Remington is now loading it, as well. I hope it uses the old Corelokt bullets. Those things at the speeds of a 9.3x62 would be superb game getters.
It surprises me how the 9.3x62 has continued to increase in popularity. Nice to see a cartride that's kind of standard looking, not short and fat like me, or the size of an Atlas missle, and doesn't blast bullets just shy of the speed of light just creeping up in popularity.
Bfly

Right now the Remington flavor is in stock at Midway USA:

9.3x62 Core Lokt

AS are Norma, Hornady, Lapua, Nosler and Winchester.

You can't buy .308 anywhere but by golly you can find 9.3x62mm!

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Originally posted by 86thecat:

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Originally posted by Will:
Nominal velocity of the 286 gr. bullet is 2430 fps. If anything the Hornady's may be a tad slow.

Is Hornady running traditional pressure or modern pressure?

Hornady will only load to SAAMI or CIP specification - in this case the loadings will not exceed CIP specification.

In my tests on various penetration testing media and shooting out to 400 yards, a 250 gr TSX at 2500 fps will shoot flatter and penetrate farther than any cup & core 286.
If you must have a 286 (???) there's a TSX you can knock on the 2300fps door with.

Since the 270/300 gr TSX in the 375 H&H is now the "rig of choice" for Buff among many PHs, there is reason to suggest that 9.3 TSX would be far behind.

For practice (and hunting medium game close in)
a 250-300 gr cast bullet @ 1900 fps is cheap and deadly as well as a fine surrogate for expensive jacketed bullet loads.

As an aside, outside of handloaded Woodleigh 286s (they also make a 320), the most accurate and best penetrating cup and core load was the 285 gr factory Prvi Partizan in three different rifles. It was also the least expensive @ $26/box vs $35-100 for other factory ammo.

I had a small part to play in a major test project in australia a few years ago. The Lapu mega was big surprise performer. the Woodleigh 320 gr is not ideal for the 9.3X62. But the Woodleigh 286 along with the Lapua & the TSX were among the very best.

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I jsut saw the Remington & Nosler sites. One says 18 years age minimum & the otehr says 21 years age minimum! Why the differncence?

Nakihunter,

Do you have any opinion as to the standard Weldcore vs the Protected Point in the 9.3x62?

The difference in ages may have something to do with buyers needing to be 18 to buy rifle/shotgun ammo and 21 for handgun ammo. Whoever built the websites may not know the difference...

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Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
A Ruger Hawkeye in 9.3x62 would be very tempting.

I agree! Still kicking myself for not snagging one in 358 Win.

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any field experience with the 286gr Hornady 9.3 cal bullet on big game such as large deer .....

Naki,

Yes.

A coupla years ago I loaded 100 9.3x62 cartridges with the Hornady 286 grainers. Used my regular load for a 286 grainer, Norma brass, WLR Primer & 51.0 grs. of VV N-140 with a Lee Factory Crimp Die and crimped 'em right into the upper edge of the cannelure. Plunks 'em into clover-leaves at 100 meters outa 2 rifles.

As mentioned in another thread did not find the cannelure of the Hornadys in the wrong spot for the 9.3x62 at all; but with VV N-140 I'm not compressing loads. I did though; since I load the 9.3x74R also try a few of them in that cartridge as well with a stiff load of AA-4350 and it crunches the powder a tad. Shoots perfect as well.

Both cartridges work on Red, Fallow Deer & Wild Boar perfectly, great penetration, not alot of blood shot meat and reasonably-sized exit wounds. Never recovered a bullet.

My two 9.3x62's; one a 20" carbine, the other a 22.6" Blaser barrel; both used for High Seat & Drive Hunting and the 9.3x74R in a Drilling which is only used in High Seat, night time hunts so the shots are precise, set-piece ambushes at 60-80 meters.

They perform just fine; never had a complaint although many of the bullets in the 9.3x62 loads went into the Black Hole during Drive hunts. I can attest they make great holes in trees, Oak, Pine, Elm - too!

As for African game we took our 9.3x62s to RSA alot in the 1990's and actually used PMP (Pretoria Metal Pressing) 286 gr. R.N.'s and shot all sorts of Plains Game. They worked great and I would suppose the Hornady Spitzer is pretty comparable as Cup 'n Core bullets go.

I appreciate that North Americans have discovered the 9.3's; great cartridges. The more the Merrier. In no way do I harbour any resentment of the 35 Whelen which appears to be the North American main competition, it's got it's place in the Grand-Scheme-of-Things, too.

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I jsut saw the Remington & Nosler sites. One says 18 years age minimum & the otehr says 21 years age minimum! Why the differncence?

USA firearms law.

18 year olds can purchase long guns (rifles and shotguns) and long gun ammunition.

You must be 21 years old to purchase handguns and handgun ammunition. On a related note, I found it odd that I could buy 30-06, 30-30, etc. at the local sporting goods store when I was 18 but, I could NOT buy 22LR because it could be fit into a pistol. Hmmm ... 30-06 for sparrows in the barn or getting mom to buy me some 22LR .....

I love this cartridge It speaks with alot of power in a case that is its size.



Totally love it!!



Cal30

Rick
I have no field experience with those two bullets but from the test results they were not too differnt. The PP gave a bit more penetration but the difference was small. Many Aussie & cape buffalos have been killed with those bullets.

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Originally posted by Rick R:
Nakihunter,

Do you have any opinion as to the standard Weldcore vs the Protected Point in the 9.3x62?

The difference in ages may have something to do with buyers needing to be 18 to buy rifle/shotgun ammo and 21 for handgun ammo. Whoever built the websites may not know the difference...

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Has anyone got any field experience with the 286gr hornady 9.3 cal bullet on big game such as large deer, kudu, large pigs, Aussie buffalo / bulls / donkey etc?

I have just got a packet (my favourite lapua megas have gone to $2 per bullet!) & I wonder if they will perform like the Normas, lapuas etc or are softer like the Speer.

Yes, loaded to standard pressures and shot out a short barreled Sako, so the velocity was probably no more than around 2300fps. Three large bodied northern whitetail deer and my second largest boar were cleany taken with this combo, but the shot presentations were fairly open with the largest bone struck being rib. The smallest critter I've shot was a very large raccoon where the bullet went lengthwise from the vent out the top of the skull. Not a big animal like a large deer, but the bullet traveled over two feet through and out the critter at a very close range and the only major damage to the hide was the fur around the vent split a bit along the belly and a small plug of hair around the exit hole was missing on the scalp. The fur ended up in near perfect shape when skinned. I'd imagine if the bullet were fragile, it would have blown the critter to pieces.

Have no experience, however, with this bullet either stiking substantial bone or traveling at a higher velocity. But, with broadside shots at the lower velocities, it seems to kill large deer and boar very quick and clean. I'd be unsure how it would perform if I needed it to shoot through a couple feet of a very large game animal while needing to penetrate heavy bone.

Best

I don't shoot or hunt with Hornady bullets.

Larry Sellers

I'm intrigued , Larry. How does your post add anything at all to the discussion in general ?

The post indicated that Hornady is now loading 9.3 X 62 ammo. I merely stated that I don't/won't shoot Hornady bullets. I assumed that they were using their own bullets in this offering??? Just saying.

I could also ask. What does your post about my comment add to this discussion?

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Originally posted by muzza:
I'm intrigued , Larry. How does your post add anything at all to the discussion in general ?

Mine , Larry ? My post adds exactly as much as yours does - nothing. I was just curious why you bothered to post at all.

Now , had you added " because this has been my experience with Hornady ammunition " and gone on to give an example of the shortfalls or inadequacies of Hornady then the outcome would be entirely differant and I wouldnt have troubled you with my query in the first place .

Personally , I hope we get this ammo on the shelves down here in New Zealand soon as an alternative to the grossly overpriced Norma ammo that we currently have in 9.3 , or at least as a yardstick to compare my handloads.

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Originally posted by muzza:

Personally , I hope we get this ammo on the shelves down here in New Zealand soon as an alternative to the grossly overpriced Norma ammo that we currently have in 9.3 , or at least as a yardstick to compare my handloads.

You might be able to get Winchester which comes at a reasonable price.

pretty hard to get any factory ammo in 9.3 here , apart from Norma , and at over $60 a box of 20 I handload.....

Our market is too small for a calibre that has virtually no following , and the ammo importers have the market pretty well monopolised so the chances of getting any 9.3 ammo other than a special order is very slim.