After looking at the available VZ24 actions and the changes,additions that must be made to such
the Rem Sendero becomes a viable action in 300 Win
Mag.

I understand that the Rem must have a trigger job,
bedded, and lapping the barrel making the price
$250 higher that a VZ24 based rifle.In addition
the Rem will have a factory barrel of low quality compared to the Shilen I would put on the VZ.

I also am aware of the CZ offering at a better price that the Rem.

I would appreciate the advice of the knowledgeable
shooters on this forum.

It is wonderful to be able to choose which one
based on valuable advice.

THANKS
MARSHALL

P.S. Like many on this site I really don't need this rifle, "just want one".

P.S. HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL

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Do the .300win on a VZ-24. Marshall, where do you live? There is a board member in Louisiana, that could convert a VZ-24 to .300 win for you.

I agree with ALF, the VZ-24 done properly is far ahead in class and workmanship. These actions work far better (and it's much cheaper) with non-belted rounds -- check out the 8x68S thread on Medium bore forum. Brass from Old Western Scrounger at $13 / 20 pieces, RCBS die set ~ $50, and your're in business with a classic that complements your Mauser and stomps on the 300 win mag, with no belt.

Todd

Added:
Check out Lothar Walther's US website for a listing of their pre-threaded, long chambered Mauser barrels in a bunch of classic calibers.

[ 11-27-2002, 10:00: Message edited by: Todd Getzen ]

ALF
Such gibberish on my part.Mae Culpa,Mae Culpa

marshall

How good are the Sendaro's really? Do they shoot like a Varmint rifle? I would like to get one some day but I don't know if they are really that much better than a regular contour barrel rig.

What are peoples experiences? Can you typically get close to half MOA out of them?

I have also been keeping an eye on the stainless tikka's that are garenteed to shoot 1 moa.

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Markus

I have heard the Tikkas are very good for the money,also the CZ has a very good reputation.

NOT FROM MY KNOWLEDGE,but my association with varmint and benchrest the Rem. 700 action is considered by the smiths to best to work on.

All of my 700's have been blueprinted(brough to factory specs), bedded over the alum.block for proper alignment and the trigger has been sent to specialists and set at 1 lb. After that they will shoot under 1 inch using windflags and 5 shot groups.To judge the precision of a rifle the flags are a must, along with an excellent trigger.
In my opinion!!!!

With all this said I think the answer to your question is dependent on the following:

#1 Cartridge chosen (short and fat seems to better than long and thin)

#2 Aftermarket work done

#3 Luck of the draw on the Rem barrel

Just something to think about as I will be anxious to see other opinions.

Best of the holidays

marshall

Yeah I really have been wondering if that extra price on a sendaro is going to get that much better accuracy than a Tikka with its MOA garrentee. I don't think I would be able to notice it in the field but I do like to shoot a bit. But I guess thats what varmint rifles and target rifles are for.

Somebody asked about Sendero performance. I have a .300 Win in the stainless model and have been astounded with its performance. I ordered the rifle when it was first released and didn't receive it for almost 8 months following. However, when it arrived, I was elated.

I mounted a 6.5-20x40mm Leupold Vari-XIII Target scope with Leupold Mark IV bases and rings. I then fire lapped the barrel to a high shine. Following the range work, I adjusted the trigger to about 3#. After about another 100 rounds, I began working accuracy loads with it.

I soon found out it was very amiable to different bullets. I was able to get single hole accuracy at 100 meters with 165 grainers, 180 grainers and 190 grainers with 5 shot groups. It was very difficult to tell a difference in the loads. So, I moved the target out to 200 meters and was soon able to achieve less the 1" five shot groups. The best group I have fired to date was right at 3/4" at 200 yards using 180 gr. BTs. Using the Hornady 190 gr. BTSPs, I have been able to consistently get .9 inches at 200m. Not bad for a bullet with a canalure!

Currently, when it comes time to hunt, I load the 190 BTSP Hornady with IMR 7828 and have been very impressed.

I have had the rifle for around 6 years and have put over 2000 rounds through it. Currently, I can still get 1 inch groups at 200m with the same loads.

Not bad...

[ 12-03-2002, 21:00: Message edited by: Gunnerdog ]

I'll second that, after a comparable experience with my Sendero in .300 Win Mag.

Alf,

You don't really need quality photos with a Rem.