28 July 2002, 11:10
<Ranger Dave>300 Win Mag 180 vs 190 vs 200gr
A question for you 300 Win Mag shooters. What bullet weight and brand do you shoot and why? My rifle shoots 180's or 200's just as good. Is there any big difference on big game?
28 July 2002, 11:47
stubblejumperI use 180's as they have performed very well and have a flatter trajectory.They also recoil less for those to whom it may matter.I just haven't found a situation where 200 gr bullets are necessary or offer any advantage.If a 180 gr bullet won't do the job I will move up to the 338 caliber.
[ 07-28-2002, 02:48: Message edited by: stubblejumper ]28 July 2002, 12:22
ShadowRanger Dave,
Call me crazy, but I use the 220 Grain Nosler Partition in my 300 Win Mag. (and it's companion 220 grain Barnes super solid).
The load:
Federal Gold Medal cases
Federal 215 primers
76 grains H-1000
Nosler 220 grain Partition Semi-spitzer
Velocity 2711 FPS
3/4" 3 shot groups @ 100 yds.
I use a magnum not for high velocity, but to get a usefull velocity (anything over 2800 is too fast, anything under 2400 FPS is too slow) from a heavy for the caliber bullet. The fact that the Barnes gives me the same POI (with 2 grains less power) give me a soft and solid, that hit the same POI, for African hunting (like, you never know when you need a sold, until you need it bad. Kinda like a life preserver) and you do not know were your gunbearer went with your heavy rifle.
Hay if you want to use a 180, launch it from a 30-06 not a 300 Winny Mag. An 06 with a good 180 is fine out to 300 yds, and most of us should not be shooting farther than that.
In any event, I hunt mostly with my 300 (220 @ 2711 fps), 358 Winchester (200 Barnes X @ 2625 FPS) and 375 H&H (270 Swift A-Frame @ 2725 FPS).
All those trajectories are very close, so I have only one set of tables to memorize.
When you get old your memory starts to fade, and this is my solution to "gee, how much does this thing drop @ 300 yds when sighted in to be dead on @200."
Now what was I saying?
Oh, yes: Your mileage may vary.
Bob
28 July 2002, 13:09
DB BillI like the heavier weights my self but it kind of depends on what I'm hunting...deer and smaller I like the 165gr.....then I mostly jump to the 200gr for anything bigger....mostly Nosler Partitions.
29 July 2002, 02:52
snowmanDave I have found the 200 gr to be very good on moose and elk. The Nosler partition is super and for a cheap bullet the 200 gr Speer works well.For deer etc stay with the 180.
29 July 2002, 15:12
<Ranger Dave>Where do you get your Speer bullets from? I don't recall anyone in Winnipeg selling them.
[ 07-29-2002, 06:13: Message edited by: Ranger Dave ]30 July 2002, 01:37
dan belisle180's in the Win Mag and my 308 Norma, 200's in the Weatherby. It's an accuracy thing. - Dan
30 July 2002, 03:34
rickt300I second the 200 grain Speer spitzer hot cor. This bullet does it all for me as my rifle does not shoot the partition well. I have pushed this bullet through lots of bone and had it come out with lots of weight and good frontal diameter. Never sell heavy Speer bullets short, they perform. This is my favorite elk bullet and I push it with a case full of H1000.
30 July 2002, 03:44
<allen day>I've always gotten plenty of penetration on all classes of game with premium 180 gr. bullets out of the .300 Winchester. I don't see the need for heavier bullets and if heavy bullets are called for, it's time to go to something bigger, such as the .375 H&H.
There are times that I've found 165 gr. bullets loaded to a little over 3200 fps. to be very useful, especially for Coues deer, mule deer, and pronghorn hunting. Sighted in just over 3" high at 100 yards, this load is zeroed at 300 yards, and it bucks the wind very well indeed.
AD
30 July 2002, 04:46
Battle RiverI echo Stubble's comments completely, as the 180 has an excellent match of 3000 f/s and recoil. The extra 20 gr bulklet is not that great and if I want more bullet I will step up to the 338 with 45 gr more. I do use the 190 gr hornady in the 300 wby but only because of the excellent accuracy it provides.
BR
04 August 2002, 15:31
AtkinsonNobody can rightously complain about the 180 Nosler in the 300 Win,, its a great combo...but, I belive I like the results of the 200 gr. Nosler better...It is truly the hammer of Thor.
05 August 2002, 02:15
<phurley>I have been shooting the .300 Win mag. since 1973. A Model 70 winchester. A post 64 that is dented, and scratched but never rusty. My rifle really shines with the 180 gr. Nosler Partition. I have killed several Elk and deer with this bullet which will chrony at 3100 fps. I took a 91/2 ft. Brown Bear at Cold Bay Alaska with a 200 gr. Nosler Partition, and feel that on the larger animals the larger bullet is superior. Many rifles will shoot the 150 gr. to 165 gr. bullet flat, the .300's were designed to shoot the larger bullets flat. A 200 gr. bullet at 2950 fps is quite awesome. When I go to Alaska now I pack either a .340 Wby or .358 STA, my bear hunt and encounters by buddies convinced me this was wise.
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