3800fps with a 180 grain bullet?

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08 March 2002, 10:19

<Akuma>

3800fps with a 180 grain bullet?

Are there any cartridges out there factory or wildcat chamberings capable of 3800fps with a 180grain bullet?Just curious.

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08 March 2002, 10:43

<338Lapua>

I don't know about 3800 with a 180. But from my 338 Lapua I can get 3500 with a 180.

Maybe with a 338/416 Imp and a 34-36" barrel it would be possible.

Jim

08 March 2002, 12:04

DanD

The only round I know of that can even come close to that is the 7.82 Lazzeroni Warbird, I guess that could be called a semi-factory round.
Another posibility is a sabotted 50bmg, and the 50 is a factory cartridge... heh.

08 March 2002, 12:39

<Akuma>

Thanks for the info guys I appreciate it.Dan
you said about saboting the 50 BMG but is there anybody who actually went ahead and necked it down to 30 caliber.

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08 March 2002, 12:54

<EricH>

Check this out.

http://www.statearms.com/mach5.htm

09 March 2002, 03:13

<Guy>

Akuma - I'll second 338Lapua and say that I have attained 3500 fps with a 180 Nosler BT in my 338 Ultra. I don't think that bullet would hold up well at close range on a large animal like an elk. FYI - Those 180's are very accurate even at that velocity.

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09 March 2002, 04:04

BER007

Akuma,

I think you need the most powerful .338 is a wildcat .338/378. The contains more powder than .338 Lapua, .338 RUM or .338/416 Rigby.

You can find factory rifle made by Weatherby.

Hope this can help you.

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09 March 2002, 20:04

DanD

quote:
Originally posted by Akuma:
Dan you said about saboting the 50 BMG but is there anybody who actually went ahead and necked it down to 30 caliber.

The velocities obtained with a 180grn bullet from a 50BMG can surpass 5000fps, the reason why this is not done it that the barrel would be burned out in a matter of minutes. The sabots use a plastic shell, therefore there is not nearly the amount of metal on metal abbrasion.

10 March 2002, 09:06

<Akuma>

quote:
Originally posted by DanD:
The velocities obtained with a 180grn bullet from a 50BMG can surpass 5000fps, the reason why this is not done it that the barrel would be burned out in a matter of minutes. The sabots use a plastic shell, therefore there is not nearly the amount of metal on metal abbrasion.

Thanks DanD for the Info,so you say there is not a barrel designed yet to withstand that kind of friction.Too bad, it would be intresting to shoot a gun that could launch a bullet that fast!!

Akuma

10 March 2002, 22:14

DanD

Well lets see, according to balistics a 180grn Sierra MatchKing traveling at 3000fps with a 500 yard zero will hit at -182.94 inches below aim at 1000 yards at a velocity of 1457fps. On the other hand at 5000fps, it would be -73.16 and a velocity of 2429fps. In other words at 1000 yards it would have the velocity of a 308 Winchester.

10 March 2002, 22:19

Socrates

Why Dan darling, why not run the same stuff for a 240 grain, .711 or so, 300 caliber, sierra, hpbt????

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11 March 2002, 07:48

DanD

Because it has a 55.86inch drop and a velocity of 3086fps, and thats just crazy.

16 March 2002, 18:37

Socrates

AWESOME STUFF DAN. ;-) THANKS..
(In my mind, I see Boyd thinking...it's not THAT crazy)

17 March 2002, 00:44

SDS

I recall somebody getting frantic velocities out of a .416 (Rigby? it was pre-Weatherby) with a very light bullet. Don't know why you'd do it, but shooting doesn't have to be about practicality....sounds like good fun with small furry mammals?

21 March 2002, 06:04

RogerK

A few years ago I saw a .338 50BMG wildcat in a gunshop in Craig, Colorado. It clocked a 250 grain bullet at around that speed. Frankly, I'm not that masochistic. I'll stick with my 270 Winchester, and pick up my 300 Winchester when I feel really mean.

21 March 2002, 14:59

DanD

You are speaking of the 338/50 Talbot, the guy who gave us the Talbot QD scope rings. Velocity for the 338/50 is listed as 3700fps with a 250grn bullet. Again barrel life would be quite limited and practical applications non-existent.

21 March 2002, 16:18

<Boyd Heaton>

Your right Socrates,It's not crazy,IT'S AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

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