A friend has a rifle in this caliber, and we're trying to find ammo for it. Having no luck.

Also, if there are reloading supplies and recipes for this caliber, I'd love to have some.

It takes a 150gr .318 bullet (from what I can gather).

Any info would be appreciated.

Mike

Huningtons has RWS brass.36.00 for 20 pcs.
Probably dies and bullets too. Did,nt have time to look them up.
thats where I go first for really unusual stuff. What kind of rifle is it, I would assume like most rounds with an R at the end it a single shot or a double ?
...tj3006

Three barrel Drilling???? roger

i presume this is an old schutzen - best place for info on it will be in the single shot news

I´m reloading this round for my dad´s rifle. A old bavarian schützen rifle. I use RWS brass (I mean the best), and bullets from H&N with 148grs and 170grs. The propelant I use is the Vith N110 with charges between 12 and 14 grs. This round needs a little bit of feeling, then the old gun makers often made their own barrels and so the chamber, the twist and the bore diameter is not evertime the same. With my rifle and the old tang sight, I shoot groups under 3", but the first is always a flyer.


Martin

Thanks for the info folks. I'll follow up on your recommendations.
The rifle is a J.P. Sauer single shot w/double set triggers.
I haven't slugged the bore, but if I can find some 316 or 318 bullets, I might try them.
I'll post results when I have some, but always welcome more discussion on this caliber.

Thanks again,
Mike

be sure you do slug the barrel - there's a lot of variation in these old guns. you may find anywhere from 318 to .340

Jacketed bullets need to have a thin, soft jacket! Many of these guns have rifling intendedfor lead bullets.

Fuhrmann

Great to see your responses. Does anyone know if loaded ammo is available. If it exists in Europe, how do you get it to the US??

Also, I think that since the rifle is a J.P. Sauer that it should be fairly standard in bore dimensions. It does, however, have rather deep rifling.

Thanks again,
Mike
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Originally posted by Michael A. Glass:
A friend has a rifle in this caliber, and we're trying to find ammo for it. Having no luck.

Also, if there are reloading supplies and recipes for this caliber, I'd love to have some.

It takes a 150gr .318 bullet (from what I can gather).

Any info would be appreciated.

Mike

The 8.15x46R does normally use a .325 cal bullet...however yours could have been rebarreled with a .318bore barrel??.

Use the same loadingdata as the 32-40 win/ballard, and you will be fine. I have had a Sauer Tellrifle( kipplaufer) for many years ago, which shot perfect using 32-40 loads.

11 grain Unique and a 165 grain greased leadbullet.

Sage advice here about widely varying bore and groove diameters with the 8,15x46R, no matter who the maker was.

Loaded ammo is available from Buffalo Arms:

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,4103.htm

Great info folks!!
Much appreciated. I'll order some factory ammo and then reload the cases.

I'm new to this site, but I'll be back, and hopefully provide some useful info.

Thanks again,
Mike

Dear Michael,

I have a very similar gun. Break-open single shot with set triggers, marked "Diana". The barrel seems to prefer jacketed bullets, expectably so, because this is a light hunting rifle ("Pirschbüchse"). I shot RWS factory loads, the accuracy of which was okay even for five shots in rapid fire (for which employ the gun was not made...).

The jacketed flat point bullet of 9,8 grams weight (151 grains) has a stepped and nickel-plated soft copper jacket, to accomodate deep lead grooves. Here are the exact measurements of the RWS factory bullets (which you may still find in some shops, if you are lucky; factory ammo has not been loaded since 1990):

Bottom band: tapered from 8,10 mm (bottom) to 8,18 mm (right under groove)
Groove depth: 7,69 mm
Top band: 8,18 mm
The lightly conical front part (nose) is bore-riding and tapers from 6,80 mm to 7,88 mm
Meplat diameter is ca. 6 mms.

Mild target handloads with a lead bullet that performed well out of my Wehrmannsbüchse did *not* group well in this hunting rifle though. Question of twist length and groove-land configuration.

In my opinion, an excellent gun for roe deer or small still striped boars (Frischlinge). Flavour of yesteryear.

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Originally posted by Michael A. Glass:
Thanks for the info folks. I'll follow up on your recommendations.
The rifle is a J.P. Sauer single shot w/double set triggers.
I haven't slugged the bore, but if I can find some 316 or 318 bullets, I might try them.
I'll post results when I have some, but always welcome more discussion on this caliber.

Best regards and Weidmannsheil,
Carcano