Savage 110 feed problem

23 September 2019, 23:27

Got a Savage 110 Storm in 7-08 for the granddaughter. A tack driver out of the box but
it doesn't feed well. If you load the magazine or
just drop one on top of the magazine to push into the
chamber, the cartridge case mouth hits an obsturction
which I believe to be the barrel ring ahead of the
feed ramp. The feed ramp takes the cartridge to
this barrel ring and it does not go further unless
you shake the shell around and get it to go down into the chamber. Very annoying for a new rifle. This sharp edged surface needs to be removed and perhaps the feed ramp and chamber polished. Suggestions please, send it back to
Savage of have a local gunsmith smooth it up.
Hunting season comes to us Oct. 1st for MLD and
I don't really have time to send it to Savage. Last resort granddaughter can use as a single shot hand loaded into the chamber but it does not feed any brand of ammo or reloads without hanging up on this sharp surface which prevents
the shell from gliding into the chamber. Anyone
have this problem. Need help please.

24 September 2019, 00:33

dpcd

Yes. I have noticed sharp edged chambers.
Need to chamfer the chamber mouth. Easy to do, once the barrel is off. It will be cheaper for you get a nut wrench and to do it yourself than to ship it back and forth. They are not on that tightly. Usually. (Now, yours will be at 90 pounds of torque.)

24 September 2019, 04:54

Fjold

It's a very common issue even with custom barrels.

The factory spec for the barrel is 45 Lbs.-Ft but I regularly find them spot torqued. (Twisted so tight that the installer must have seen spots.)

24 September 2019, 21:03

Luckyducker

I bought a used Savage model 111 chambered in 270Win off gunbroker over 15 years ago that had a Timney trigger and Boyds laminated stock really cheap. The rifle looked brand new. And like you posted, it was very accurate but wouldn't feed for anything. Upon inspection I could see that the previous owner had been tweaking the feed lips on the mag box, so I installed a new mag box and it didn't help at all. I then ground the feed ramp to a lesser angle and this helped greatly but didn't fix it completely, so then I went to work on the mag follower and made it to where the cartridge on the left side snugged up under the feed lips more and voila! It fed like it was supposed to. I think you need to really look the working of the action over carefully to see what needs to be done, or take it to a gunsmith that knows what he is doing. There are hacks out there, so check their experience with a critical eye.

25 September 2019, 19:42

taylorce1

quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Yes. I have noticed sharp edged chambers.
Need to chamfer the chamber mouth. Easy to do, once the barrel is off. It will be cheaper for you get a nut wrench and to do it yourself than to ship it back and forth. They are not on that tightly. Usually. (Now, yours will be at 90 pounds of torque.)

I've got a barrel nut wrench, but most Savage barrels were on gorilla tight in my experience! I haven't tried it on the newer Savage rifles since everything went to the 110 action designation.

30 September 2019, 17:45

tetonka

Thanks to all for your postings. The rifle is
new and as a 110 series it does not have the traditional barrel nut. I believe the bbl. is
screwed in directly to the action. It's going to
take an appropriate barrel vise and some torque to
get it off. Feed from the magaazine is good. The
barrel needs to be chamfered. Now I need to find
a good new gunsmith in my area as my old standbys
have either died or moved out of country. Any suggestions for the Austin/San Antonio area.
Hill Country Rifles is close but they won't look at a small job. Not enough money in it i guess.
Again thanks to all.

Tetonka
DRSS and others

30 September 2019, 22:38

Lamar

I'd get it through hunting season and send it back.

30 September 2019, 22:59

vapodog

quote:
Originally posted by Lamar:
I'd get it through hunting season and send it back.

Two things
1. return it to Savage for repairs
2. Don't buy any more.....It's been my experience that you get what you pay for.....If you want extraction, ejection, feeding, and a good trigger....buy it elsewhere.

That said....Savage has come a long way with the accutrigger.

01 October 2019, 05:07

Uncle Grinch

You mentioned you think the barrel is screwed directly into the receiver. Look carefully at it again. Some of the newer Savages have smooth barrel nuts, not the notched version. The proper wrench is available for them.

01 October 2019, 05:26

vzerone

Yeah the new barrel nuts are smooth and the hole or notch is underneath hidden by the stock. It takes a spanner type wrench.

01 October 2019, 13:51

p dog shooter

quote:
A tack driver out of the box but it doesn't feed well.

I have 4 or 5 savage rifles that I have shot many thousands of rounds through at P dogs.

They all have feeding issues.

I well not use one for big game hunting because of that.

Accurate as all get out but they are not reliable enough for real serious work.

01 October 2019, 18:24

tetonka

Thanks for the description of the new barrel
nut and required spanner. I don't plan on any
more Savages. This happened to be a great package
for a leftie Granddaughter who only hunts White
Tail Deer. Anything bigger in the future will be
a 375 H&H. Good leftie guns are scarce. Again
Cheers to all who have helped.
Good Shooting

Tetonka
DRSS

01 October 2019, 19:40

Ole Miss Guy

I wonder if anyone associated with Savage even cares of their quality issues?

01 October 2019, 21:23

vzerone

Oh I wouldn't give up on Savage. I think they make a good product for the money. Every manufacture has a bad item time to time. Savage have been some of the most accurate factory rifles out there.

Here's one for you. I have a friend that is a gunsmith and a customer brought in a Remington rifle that he wanted threaded for a suppressor. Story short the bore hole was VISIBLY off center by a LOT!!!!! He asked the customer if he was sure he wanted that threaded and then pointed out the bore way off center. Rifle went back to Remington.

01 October 2019, 22:24

Snowwolfe

I bought 3 new Savage Storms in the last couple of months.
LH 223
LH 308
RH 7mm/08

The 223 is sighted in and shot a few times. No feeding issues. Have not shot the other two yet and this thread got me a little paranoid so grabbed them both out of the safe and ran a couple of full mags (4 rounds) thru each to test the feeding/ejecting. Did experience a small amount of bolt resistance when closing the bolt on my wifes 7mm/08 but that was due to the fact I min resize and the rounds were for her other rifle. Its a straight shot from the magazine to the chamber, at least on the 3 I own.
Other than that, perfect feeding and ejecting.

02 October 2019, 04:22

custombolt

Would a long stemmed cone-shaped emery grinder chucked in a low speed cordless drill soften the edges enough? I've used them on aluminum engine intake manifolds and were easy to control. Not sure about smoothing out steel with one. Surely less costly than a chamfering bit would be I would think.

Another thought, check the extractor to make sure it isn't hitting anywhere.

06 October 2019, 22:30

custombolt

Sorry, my previous guidance was wrong. I apologize.

On second thought, it's a brand new rifle. Send it to Savage and make them make it right or replace it.
Simply call their tech dept. and calmly ask where to send it. Never repair or have a new gun repaired by anyone. The warranty goes poof if you know what I mean.

08 October 2019, 23:28

SlamFire

quote:
Originally posted by tetonka:
Got a Savage 110 Storm in 7-08 for the granddaughter. A tack driver out of the box but
it doesn't feed well. If you load the magazine or
just drop one on top of the magazine to push into the
chamber, the cartridge case mouth hits an obsturction
which I believe to be the barrel ring ahead of the
feed ramp. The feed ramp takes the cartridge to
this barrel ring and it does not go further unless
you shake the shell around and get it to go down into the chamber. Very annoying for a new rifle. This sharp edged surface needs to be removed and perhaps the feed ramp and chamber polished. Suggestions please, send it back to
Savage of have a local gunsmith smooth it up.
Hunting season comes to us Oct. 1st for MLD and
I don't really have time to send it to Savage. Last resort granddaughter can use as a single shot hand loaded into the chamber but it does not feed any brand of ammo or reloads without hanging up on this sharp surface which prevents
the shell from gliding into the chamber. Anyone
have this problem. Need help please.

While everyone is suggesting a barrel problem, in my experience with similar feeding malfunctions in other bolt action rifles, this is further est from a barrel problem. This is a magazine feed lips and timing issue. Something is wrong with the magazine feed lip geometry. And this is not something you can fix at home, it may require a replacement of the receiver. Since this is a new rifle, send it back. If you monkey with it, you will be stuck with something that cannot be fixed by you. Send it back.

12 October 2019, 06:37

25Cal

I hope you called Savage about your problem. The Storm isn't a cheap model. It should feed properly. I have half a dozen Savage or Stevens bolt guns. I haven't had ammo feeding problems, but have had ejection problems with two. I was able to fix the problems myself. If you haven't sent it back for repair, one option is to buy another magazine and see if that fixes the feeding problem. You can get a magazine in short order from customer service.

28 October 2019, 00:29

44magLeo

I have a Savage model 11 that I rebarreled to 250 Savage. Feeds flawlessly.
I had a Stevens 200 in 270 Win that fed great, factory or hand loads.
I have a Stevens 200 in 223 that feeds 55 gr factory loads fine. 50 gr factory loads the last one in the mag fails to feed.
This rifle has a fairly long throat. With my hand loads I seat bullets out longer. The 50 gr bullets at this longer length fixed the feed issues.
Perhaps you can try adjusting the COAL some to see if it has any effect.
Leo