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Re: Mosin Nagant 7.62x54R Hunting?
08 February 2004, 02:55
Borealis BobRe: Mosin Nagant 7.62x54R Hunting?
As Fish280 said, they are handy particularly in the carbine form. I have several but have not hunted with them; use them for inexpensive plinking but would handload if used for hunting. Know of a couple guys who have and have been pleased with the results.
08 February 2004, 05:11
ClarkA friend of mine has been shooting deer and elk for 40 years with the 7.62x54R.
I asked him if he leaves the bolt up for safety. [ He falls down allot while looking for deer while walking. ]
He says he keeps his finger off the trigger and watches were he points the rifle.
08 February 2004, 07:56
BoghossianI was wondering how you guys handled the 28" barrels!
By the way, the amount of accessories you see on the net, could make the Mosin a nice walnut stocked, bent bolted, scoped hunting rifle if you had the inclination...
One thing, when a stripper clip is finished, does it drop out of the bottom?
OK if they are as good as they say, why do SKSs outnumber them 10/1?
08 February 2004, 18:07
prof242
I know the effectiveness of the Mosin-Nagant; got shot with one in December, 1967, in VN. Barely lived (some say still not alive).
Oh, the shooter? About five guys fired back with full-auto M-16s, recovering the body of the shooter and the rifle (wish they'd let me have it).
08 February 2004, 19:50
TERRY8mmThe MOSIN NAGANT in 7.62x54 is an excellent rifle/round. I have several semi customs based on the action. With several easy to perform tweaks the rifles are very nice and extremely strong. I have 1 1922/converted Dragoon/M91/30 that has had the trigger modified, a new crown and action bedded that will average around 1.25" consistantly with several loads. The cost,$59.95 + materials.
The trigger is easily tweaked or modified for better function.
The rifles are capable of outstanding accuracy, as evidenced by the Finnish Army rifle teams consistant high scores.
09 February 2004, 01:29
tiggertateThere is even a decent aftermaket trigger for these guns. Try
Huber09 February 2004, 02:30
Borealis BobBoghossian...
Why do SKS' outnumber them 10 to 1? Maybe more folks like semiautomatic rifles rather than bolt actions? Not a valid comparison or observation.
09 February 2004, 04:00
BoghossianHi,
They are both surplus guns at good prices with cheap ammo, so I think it is a valid comparison, but we can agree to differ mate
Wow, prof242 This sounds dumb, but can you describe what it feels like to get shot? Sorry for being nosy...
10 February 2004, 06:49
ClarkI am getting 2750 fps with Sierra 180 gr spire .311" bullet, and 2950 fps 150 gr. Hornady #3120 from 91/30s and M39s.
The accuracy with the Sierra bullet is 1.2" 5 shot group at 100m.
Well above a .308, and well below a 300 Win mag, the 7.62x54 is in the 30-06 and 8mm Mauser class of power which makes it a good long range deer cartridge.
10 February 2004, 12:43
Shilohanybody got pics of there sporterized nagants they wanna share?
13 February 2004, 03:03
<eldeguello>Quote:
One thing, when a stripper clip is finished, does it drop out of the bottom?
No, it is not inside the gun. It works just like a Mauser or Springfield stripper. You shove the 5 rounds into the mag., and when you close the bolt, the stripper pops up and out of the action..... 
It is NOT like a Mannlicher.
13 February 2004, 03:15
Major CaliberQuote:
I am getting 2750 fps with Sierra 180 gr spire .311" bullet, and 2950 fps 150 gr. Hornady #3120 from 91/30s and M39s.
The accuracy with the Sierra bullet is 1.2" 5 shot group at 100m.
Well above a .308, and well below a 300 Win mag, the 7.62x54 is in the 30-06 and 8mm Mauser class of power which makes it a good long range deer cartridge.
In a 26" barrel I can easily push a 150 to 2950fps in a .308
13 February 2004, 05:17
ClarkQuote:
In a 26" barrel I can easily push a 150 to 2950fps in a .308
Maybe I should not have juxtaposed last weekend's 150 gr. chrono data with a general statement about the power potential of the 7.62x54.
That load came from me getting a sticky bolt with 50 gr. IMR4895 with 180 gr. in a 91/30, so I backed off to 47 gr. The powder measure was set for 47 gr., so that is what the 150 gr. bullets got.
The overflow water capacity of cases:
.223..............30.9 gr.
30-30............45
.308...............56
8x57JS.......... 63
7.62x54R........64
30-06.............68.2
300WM ..........95.5
When achieving max power, the rimmed cases have an advantage of taking higher pressure before the primer falls out, but no advantage in sticky bolt threshold.
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14 February 2004, 04:57
<eldeguello>So based on your capacity measurements, the 7.62X54R has a POTENTIAL to be loaded to higher velocities than a .308 Win. with the same bullet weights, PROVIDED both are used in actions of equal strength.....
14 February 2004, 07:53
ClarkQuote:
PROVIDED both are used in actions of equal strength
Provided they are both so much stronger than the brass, that I don't have to worry about it.