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9,3 mm 300 gr solid or monolithic?

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12 August 2003, 03:58
Sunshine
9,3 mm 300 gr solid or monolithic?
In my Krieghoff Classic 9,3 X 74 R I'm using 300 gr. Swift A-Frames.

Now I'm looking for 300 gr. solids, ie monolithics. Are such bullets available at all?

Sunshine
12 August 2003, 04:16
Trailblazer
There are a couple choices that I know of. Barnes makes a 286gr solid and Woodleigh makes full metal jacketed bullets in 286gr and 320gr. I haven't used any of these but those are the two that I know of. Both of these can be had at www.midwayusa.com and I think the Woodleighs are on inventory reduction sale. [Smile]
12 August 2003, 08:04
<500 Nitro>
Sunshine,
I would advise AGAINST using any Monolithic bullet in your double rifle
as they may casue damage to your barrel. Numerous posts on the Big Bore forum
explain in more detail.

A monoloithic bullet is different from a Solid - A solid (ie Steel Jacketed Woodleigh)
has a bonded core lead centre - therefore has some "give" in it whereas a monoloithic
is solid metal all of the way through and has no give - hence why the potential to damage
your barrels.

Hope this helps
500 NItro
12 August 2003, 13:36
N E 450 No2
Sunshine
I agree with 500 Nitro on the momolithic solids, why take a chance, do not shoot them in your double.
I would try loads with both the 286 and the 320 Woodleigh Solid and see which one you can get to shoot the same [or very close] as your 300gr Swift.

If you have shot game with the 300gr. Swift A-Frame please give us a report on its performance. [Big Grin]
12 August 2003, 16:40
asdf
Well, I'm in no position to comment on how bronze solids affect a bore, but if you believe it is a problem, a suggestion published by Ross Seyfried in the last year or so might help.

He paper patches bullets up one or two calibers in order to get the correct diameter for some of the old guns he likes to shoot. Since a 9.3/0.366 groove barrel has a 0.358 bore, one could paper patch standard .35 bullets and the bronze would barely touch the metal.

Sadly, Barnes's solids are available in .358 only to 250 gn. I don't know about A-Square and any others.

Karl
15 August 2003, 08:05
Atkinson
Just use Woodleigh bullets as your gun was probably regulated with the 286 gr. Woodleigh solids and softs or for the original bullets which are the same deminsions as Woodleighs, for that very reason, to keep life simple...

Woodleigh makes 320 gr. softs and solids, 286 gr. softs and solids and a 250 RN SP....

I would shoot GS monlithic custom bullets in any double and have due to the softness of the mix and the grooves that reduce pressure, but the problem with them is apparantly a lack of delivery, so unless you can have them picked up and brought to you, I would shy away from them based on what I have read on this forum..I have not had problems with them on delivery but only ordered twice some time back, the rest were picked up an delivered to me at Dallas SCI....
17 August 2003, 10:00
MacD37
I'm not getting into this one, let him use them if he wants, the warnings ahve been posted many times, and Chapuis has made their acessment, and said they will not warenty any of their doubles if Monolithic solids are used in them. That's good enough reason for me not to use them in my double rifles! NUFF SAID! [Roll Eyes]
18 August 2003, 06:48
<400 Nitro Express>
If you want something heavier than the standard 286 grain load, since your 9.3 is the Kreighoff and, I presume, has the adjustable wedge, the 320 grain Woodleigh softs and solids might well be worth a try.

.500 Nitro is right about the monolithics, the risk of damage is no joke. I have personal experience with that and it is an expensive mistake. The Woodleigh softs and solids are superb game bullets designed for use in doubles. Any advantage perceived for the monometals is largely imaginary anyway, especially at 2200 fps. It isn't worth the risk.
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