Hi, I am planing to get a new riffle in 7mm caliber. I have a old 6.5x55 and I was planing to replace it iin the same caliber, but I have been hearing that 7mm is a minimum on hog in Europe. What I want is a riffle that

7mm 08 I love mine. You probable would need to reload in Europe.

sherpi - the end of your post is probably missing but talking strictly 7 mm out of the blue - take 7x64...

.280 Rem is my favorite

I have a Kimber Montana 7-08 and Sako AV 7x64. Being from Iceland, I assume there is a good supply of 7x64. If both are available it would be a coin toss. The 7x57 would be a great choice as well. Lou

In 7mm you gave an excellent choice of chamberings and one of the best range of bullets avaliable.

As to chamberings for pigs, I use a 7mm-08 and it has put pigs of all sizes down without any drama out to about 300 yards.

Other excellent choices for hogs, boar , pigs or what ever you like to call them would be the 280 Remington or the 284 winchester (both about the same performance level). Any of those 3 cartridges would provide all of the power or performance needed for any pig on this plannet, with a little thought into bullet selection.

If you wanted even more performance, you could step up to the 7mm magnums such as the 7mm SAUM or WSM, rem or waetherby if you dont mind the recoil and muzzel blast.

I'd check to see if for certain that you need a 7 mm bore in europe for boars....

I'd be perfectly happy with the 6.5 x 55 otherwise....

But my choices would be 7/08 or 7 x 57 otherwise... Ammo availability would be the major concern...I'd go with what is the most common in that market.. even tho I can handload in the USA, I understand other nations are not so user friendly when it comes to handloaded ammo....

good luck
seafire

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Originally posted by sherpi:
Hi, I am planing to get a new riffle in 7mm caliber. I have a old 6.5x55 and I was planing to replace it iin the same caliber, but I have been hearing that 7mm is a minimum on hog in Europe. What I want is a riffle that

What? Although I am a 7mm fan and own a 7mm-08,
7X57 and a .280, I'd buy a .308 or 30-06 if I
were in your spot. Both are ex military like
the 6.5X55 and ammo is available throughout
the world. Either will handle most anything
from pests to bears.

And my choice of action would be the 98 Mauser!

Why not a 7x61 Sharpe & Hart???

A Danish gentleman used it to kill more than 280 different species all around the globe!!

I am thinking about rebarreling my SAKO Fiberclass in 30-06 to one of these.

Jim

Jimbo: a couple of gunsmiths recommended agains a 7 SXH, because of high working pressures. A 7 Rem Mag would do the job at all levels, and a step down from that is the 280 REm or the 7x57.

Now if you really want to get weird do a 7 mm Mashburn Super, which is what the 7 Rem should have been.

.270. Easy ammo supplies, at least in N. America. Not exotic if that's what you need in a hobby sense. But its a great killer, flat shooter, low recoil and user friendly.

Assuming you are thinking of the change to go to a heavier bullet than the 160gr. 6.5 The natural step considering action and such would be the 7 X 57. It handles the heavier bullets far better than the 7-08 with it's whimpy throat. If the throat is extended to compliment the action you have than the 7-08 would slide under the wire as being farely adequate. JUST. roger

Plain and simple, a 280 is my fav. 7 mm caliber. Lots of versitility, not as much bang and kick as the magnums, and usually lighter and shorter to boot.
Good luck and good shooting,
Eterry

If you want a 7mm for Europe then it has to be a 7x64 Brenneke with 170 gn bullets. Alternativly 7mm rem mag but 7x64 is easier to get hold of espcially in France

7mm08 is a great round,but i would go with the 7mm rem mag.

Well there are a ton of wonderful choices and none are really bad.
The 7-08 is a very good round and its primary advantage is it can be had in a short action which cannot be said of most anything else. But its really at its best with the 140 gr. bullets
The 7X57 in factory ammo is pretty anemic here in the states (perhaps not elsewhere). So its mostly a handloaders cartridge and its a small cartridge but it won't work in a short action so why bother?
The 7mm Remington Magnum has many things going for it...its an extremely popular cartridge around the world. It consistently ranks in the top 5 in worldwide sales. Its available in a huge variety of ammo. Probably at its best with 154-160 grain bullets but that big case does come in handy when you stuff a 175 grain pill in it. It works in a standard length action (being one of the original short mags) and about its only detractor is the belt which reduces the magazine capacity on factory rifles to 3. Other than that its a pretty strong candidate.
7X64 is likewise a great cartridge and though I've never shot one I've hunted with many folks (Volks) in Germany who favor it. Its likewise a pretty hot number but I bet the 7mm Rem mag will beat it with the heavier bullets.
.280 Remington. Its a great cartridge as well and nearly the equal of the Rem Mag. Very effecient number.
7mm WSM....ahhhh....you could be the first person on Iceland to own a 7mm WSM! It will keep pace with the 7mm Rem Mag no problem. It also will do so with less powder/recoil. I won both a Rem Mag and a 7mm WSM and the WSM has quickly won me over. My model 70 Stainless synthetic is also more accurate than my Sako 75 in 7mm Rem Mag! If I were you I'd buy the WSM just to be different than everyone else. But the truth is you can't go wrong with any of the above choices except the 7X61 Sharp and Hart which I would consider a nerdy choice!
Besides, I've seen the women you have on that piece of cold rock you call home and I sure wouldn't be sitting home reloading if I found myself living there. No sir.

I'm in the US and like the 7-08 and 7mmRemMag, but in europe? no question, the 7x64.

AllanD

The 280 Rem would be my choice for Europe. Especially if you reload.

Sherpi - Stay with the metrics! 7x57 or 7x64

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The U.S. Military is not the Red Cross. When we show up we should not be handing out care packages. We should be shooting everyone not in camoflauge. Then we listen to the lamintations of thier women.

My, thats a pleasant mandate and outlook..

Sherpi,
First welcome to AR!
Got a few questions to ask before I jump to a round.
Do you have a other rifles in different calibers? Are you going to be using this rifle for other game and if so what? Do you reload?
The reason I ask is if this one is going to be used for just hogs or smaller a 7mm-08 is a great round! If you are going after something bigger and possibly further away a 7mmMAG of one or another may be a better choice.
For the most part any one of the choices is good but getting ammo may be a bother or you may need/want more power.


Smedley

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Originally posted by KY Nimrod:
The 7X57 in factory ammo is pretty anemic here in the states (perhaps not elsewhere). So its mostly a handloaders cartridge and its a small cartridge but it won't work in a short action so why bother?

In South Africa we have build plenty custom build 7 x 57's on standard length Mauser K98 actions. My rifle works flawlessly.

Plenty room for longer bullets (160 to 175 gr) without having to seat them too deeply. The combo of the K98 action and the heavy-for-caliber bullet works like a dream. Remember that the 7 x 57 mm was actually designed for a long bullet (173 gr)that was to be housed in a chamber with a long free-bore, making for a low pressure gun without undue stress on the action.

Who wants to shoot crap thin-jacketed factory bullets today? Having said that .... Do not forget that this cartridge actually made its name with a 173 gr bullet at 2,300 fps. Reason being that the mild velocity (anemic as you say)was the secret of its enviable performance ... the bullet was never over stretched to shatter or fragement like the faster cartridges!

Chris

Hi and thanks for the answers. This topic got dobel posted, and in this forum the orginal question had the end missing. So here is the orginal question
Hi, I am planing to get a new riffle in 7mm caliber. I have a old 6.5x55 and I was planing to replace it iin the same caliber, but I have been hearing that 7mm is a minimum on hog in Europe. What I want is a riffle that is big enough for raindeer, muskus ox, hog and maybe plains game in Africa if god and wife are good, but on the other hand not to big in recoil. So now I planing on a 7mm. The one I have in mind is
7x64 I can get ammo in that (not in .280rem)
7mm Rem mag
7-08 mm
And I am open to suggestions

Sherpi,
If it was up to me and if I had to choose ONE gun for all purposes I would take the 7mmRM as it can easily double as a big game caliber and a varmint / bird sniping caliber.

On the other hand, if you plan to use the gun primarily for boar hunting on the European mainland I would probably disregard the 7´s and go for a nice gun in 8x57. And keep the 6.5 for deer hunting in Iceland.

Regards

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In South Africa we have build plenty custom build 7 x 57's on standard length Mauser K98 actions. My rifle works flawlessly.

Plenty room for longer bullets (160 to 175 gr) without having to seat them too deeply. The combo of the K98 action and the heavy-for-caliber bullet works like a dream. Remember that the 7 x 57 mm was actually designed for a long bullet (173 gr)that was to be housed in a chamber with a long free-bore, making for a low pressure gun without undue stress on the action.

Who wants to shoot crap thin-jacketed factory bullets today? Having said that .... Do not forget that this cartridge actually made its name with a 173 gr bullet at 2,300 fps. Reason being that the mild velocity (anemic as you say)was the secret of its enviable performance ... the bullet was never over stretched to shatter or fragement like the faster cartridges!

Chris

Ditto for the 6.5X55

I like either the 7mm Rem Ultra or the old 7mm rem mag.