02 September 2004, 04:34
<allen day>Re: Dakota bolt action rifles
I'm one of those "sour grapes" posters who Ken recommends you wisely ignore.
I bought two Dakota .338s in the mid-1980s, and both were minute-of-foot rifles. That soured me, especially when I had a $400 Ruger .338 at the time that was a tackdriver.
Nor did I care for the ball-bearing detent that holds the firing pin assembly in place, but I understand that this has been corrected now in the form of a secure latch. I still don't care for the bolt-stop design, nor do I care for the shape of the pistol grip, which to me is misshapen.
It should be mentioned that, in the past at least, a number of top professional gunsmith have indeed felt as though tolerances and hardness have not been all that they should be with the Dakota action. I would appear likely that some of these issues have now been resolved.
In general, I'd rather hire a top professional riflesmith to take his time and build a rifle to my specs with the action of my choosing for about the same money or a little more, rather than buy a Dakota. But for those who don't want to wait for custom work, don't know who to hire or what exactly to order, live too far away to effectively deal with a quality riflemaker, etc., Dakota is likely a solid choice, especially today's Dakota rifle, which I'm sure is the very best rifle Dakota has ever built.
I still find it odd -- and even outrageous -- that today Pete Grisel gets no credit whatsover for his key contributions in the founding of Dakota..........
AD
02 September 2004, 08:32
R_93@ GeorgS
I checked this before and you are right the Zastava actions are on the one hand dirt cheap on the other hand they offer more or less a dirt quality. One has to do a lot of gunsmithing which is not very cheap (in Germany and Austria) to bring it to an acceptable standard. Paying a gunsmith a lot of money, you can buy high quality action as well there is no big difference. Check the following link. The gunsmith charge about 1000 Euro!!! to optimize a Zastava System for left hand shooters. That is not described on the website, but I asked him. The total amount for a rifle I need is 3700 Euro, I think for that money I will get a Dakota rifle as well!
www.kesslerin.de02 September 2004, 01:53
R_93Thanks all of you for the provided information. The reason I'm interessted in Dakota rifles is, that they provide left hand systems without extra charge and they are famous for a good quality as far as I've heard. My idea is to import only an action to Germany and let it fit with a barrel from Lothar Walther who is reported to supply barrels for Dakota. About 100 miles away from home I have a gifted gun stocker with a great stock of high quality wood. It seems easier to me to import the action let it complete with a barrel in Germany (saving the mailing costs and customs for the barrel and overcharged wooden stock, made by Dakota) and choose the wood for my rifle at a gun stocker nearby, where I can see directly what I will get. The only problem is, that the gun stocker need datas or at least a Dakota stock to program and operate the copy milling machine to produce the stock recess. So I'm looking for an reasonable stock for Dakota rifles in the US. I tried to find one at Boyds' but I could not find one. Does anybody has an idea or a source to purchase a non expensive stock for a Dakota barreled action e.g. a laminated one, ready to drop in the barreled action without a lot of gunsmithing or woodwork? If that makes too much trouble another idea is to buy a Winchester rifle, throwing away the stock, tuning the action, replace the trigger and buy a new fancy stock. What do you thinking about this "solution"? Is there much difference between the Winchester and the Dakota systems in terms of quality, fits and so one??
PS: ForrestB Thanks a lot for your friendly offer, perhaps I will come back to you soon

02 September 2004, 10:10
DocWould you be satisfied with a Rem. 700 Blued action in Left hand?
I am pretty sure you can get those straight from Brownell's. In some cases, it is just a cost efficient to get the whole left handed gun, then take it to a smith and have them customize it.
All my hunting rigs are left handed except one. I have Remingtons and one Ruger MKII. The Ruger has a Hart barrel and is an absolute tack driver with Barnes Triple Shocks.
