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24 April 2022, 18:20
fjrdoc
9 x 56 Mannlicher Recipes
Hi Gang. I just recently purchased a 1905 Mannlicher Schoenauer carbine. It will make a great companion to my 1903. I'm going to have fun working up loads for 250 gr round nose bullets.
The little data that I found lists primarily 3031 powder. I was wondering if anybody might have some other recipes using other powders.
25 April 2022, 01:30
rglenz
Have you slugged your bore? The bore on my 1905 measures .353. I size my 250 grain Hornadys to fit.
I've had the best results with H335 and a Fed. 215 primer, 45 grains gives me a little over 2100 fps. Reloader 15, Fed. 210, 2025 fps.
No need for me to say start lower, your rifle may vary.
25 April 2022, 01:51
rglenz
I forgot to mention that I use reformed Winchester 30-06 cases and turn the necks.
25 April 2022, 03:17
fjrdoc
I hope to get the rifle in my hands this week. I will slug the bore when I get it. I've been considering Hawk bullets since they list multiple diameters for 9mm.
27 April 2022, 08:21
bpesteve
Handloader magazine issue number 170 (July-Aug 1994) has a "Pet Loads" article by Ken Waters on the 9x56 M-S with a fair number of loads. If you will PM me with your email address I can send photos of that article. Ken is a bit wordy and I disagree with some of his findings, but it's still the best source of 9x56 data.

I took my first elk in the '80s with a 1905 carbine using 250 grain Winchester Silvertips slimmed down to .353" and was very happy with the rifle (except the recoil - the darn carbines hardly weigh anything).

Winchester 30-06 brass worked best for me too because it's just enough smaller at the case head than other brands that it fits the M-S chamber perfectly. I'll see if I can dig up my actual load.
28 April 2022, 03:17
fjrdoc
Thanks for the info steve
28 April 2022, 08:53
NormanConquest
Ken Water's book "Pet Loads" has a lot of info on that calibre as well as a lot of others. I sold my 1905 to another member here a few years ago with a lot of extras, including a bullet swaging die. If memory serves, he lives in Hershey, Pa. so he might be close to you. I THINK his handle here is custombolt if I remember correctly.


Never mistake motion for action.
08 May 2022, 23:49
fjrdoc
I picked up my new/old toy yesterday. My 1905 Mannlicher carbine was made in 1913. She is a beauty! A true carbine with 17inch barrel and double set triggers. I'm certain she's going to kick like a mule but I'll be smiling from ear to ear.
04 September 2022, 03:32
fjrdoc
I took my 1905 MS out to the range yesterday to see if she had a preference to bullet diameter. I purchased some Hornady 250 grain Interlock spire point bullets and sized them down to .354 and .355 diameter.
Well, it looks like I have a winner! This group was made at 50 yards with a peep sight. The load is .355 with 48.0 grains of IMR 4064.
This old girl built in 1913 will be accompanying me in the PA woods this year. I don't know why the target picture is rotated 90 degrees. Sorry about that.


05 September 2022, 11:16
delloro
The 350 Legend bullets might work well for you.
05 September 2022, 17:26
fjrdoc
Thanks for the tip delloro.
05 September 2022, 18:17
snowman
I have a couple 9x57 mausers and the 220 gr Speer bullet works very well also
06 September 2022, 01:10
RogersGunWorks
Interesting thread! For those of you who swage down jacketed bullets, what is your source of swaging equipment? Corbin?
Many thanks,
Roger
06 September 2022, 03:54
fjrdoc
The least expensive route that I found was to purchase custom over-run breech lock sizing dies in .355 and .354 at $16.00 dollars each. I also had to purchase the breech lock kit that accepts the dies for $15.00. The breech kit can be used with any other sizing dies that I might buy in the future.
I sure would like to locate a nice 1910 MS to add to the collection.