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Another hunting rifle (Cewe's 8x68)

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25 March 2007, 20:30
D99
Another hunting rifle (Cewe's 8x68)
Cewe,

Let me find you a blank!

Should make a very nice rifle indeed!
26 March 2007, 00:34
cewe
D99: I´m actually in the market for a blank so if you have a nice one -straight grain and nothing fancy- then we can do some business!

Lawndart: OAL for the RWS 187gr is 86mm. Lapuas book gives 87mm as max OAL.


http://www.tgsafari.co.za

"What doesn´t kill you makes you stranger!"
26 March 2007, 05:01
lawndart
Thanks!!


26 March 2007, 05:03
lawndart
One month in RSA!!!

Is this a hunting trip, or have you been sent into exile???


26 March 2007, 10:51
cewe
Lawndart: The trip will be part hunting and part writing, I´ll be starting a follow-up book to the one that will be published this fall (Tales fron the Tropic of Capricorn -pubished in Swedish).

Mostly I´m looking forward to being lazy around the ranch and enjoying boha´s company as he´ll be spending ten days at the same place string on the 13th of April.

Maybe my knees will heal n the heat?


http://www.tgsafari.co.za

"What doesn´t kill you makes you stranger!"
26 March 2007, 11:50
lawndart
The heat surely won't hurt.

Should I mail you a vial of Depo-Medrol?

I have some Equine synvisc as well; I got that from the local veterinarian. It will have you up and galloping in no time!!


26 March 2007, 12:04
boha
I'll take the pictures of Cewe not hitting the baboons, unless, of course, I will have to open indirect, supressive fire at the blighters with the .500 J! Big Grin BOOM
The big question after this is will we advance or will we hold our position. The famous knees may bear some significance to all this, but I am sure that a swift and determined charge would make better pictures.
Can you fix a bayonet with duct tape? bewildered
26 March 2007, 13:33
cewe
Thanks for cheering me up guys! I felt sort of down this morning (do to pain) but after reading about charging baboons with bayonets etc I had to chuckle Big Grin

I still need to do some practise with the 200gr bullets before I leave, might do that in the afternoon.


http://www.tgsafari.co.za

"What doesn´t kill you makes you stranger!"
26 March 2007, 16:13
husky
I am looking forward to see you blokes at Polokwane (not so) International Airport!

beer




26 March 2007, 17:24
cewe
Husky: I´m trying to set up a meeting of some kind during our stay but I haven´t heard from Tino in a few days -I´ll keep you posted.


http://www.tgsafari.co.za

"What doesn´t kill you makes you stranger!"
28 March 2007, 02:10
Safarischorsch
quote:
Originally posted by boha:
..still not tried in the field. Just delivered by mail to Cewe. In a week or two it will accompany him to RSA, to shoot baboons or screw-horned pyjama-antelopes.
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Walther-barrel, Recknagel sights and mounts, Husqvarna FN Mauser action all made by Sam Björkholm, Finland, and stocked by me. It's a 8x68S. I will meet Cewe and Husky down there after Easter
for a full report. Big Grin



Wow!

That is exactly my style!

Great work, caliber, stockdesign!

You will have a lot of fun with this combination!
28 March 2007, 02:13
Safarischorsch
quote:
Originally posted by boha:
Lawndart, very little work is required. You do not need to widen the box - the round was developed for the -98 mauser. Only fine adjustments on the feeding rail is needed. The normal length of the cartridge is 84 mm (3,307") so very little if any lengthening is needed. I've seen loads with 87mm oal, with heavier bullets though.

The standard magazine will of course not swallow five rounds, 3+1 is more likely.

This rifle had only the bolt opened, rail adjusted and magazine opened 1,5 mm - machined, no lengthening. That's what Sam told me anyway.


87mm loads are no problem!!!
28 March 2007, 02:18
Safarischorsch
quote:
Originally posted by mouse93:
quote:
Originally posted by lawndart:


Do you guys think there would be a market in Europe for 8x68(S) ammunition loaded with 200 grain Nosler Partitions or GS Custom HV bullets?



thumb GS HV with 180 grainers 3200 fps


Yes i load the 8x68S with KJG bullets 3500fps...
28 March 2007, 02:26
Safarischorsch
quote:
Originally posted by mho:
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I have loaded RWS R905, which is equivalent to Norma MRP, under a 200 grs Nosler Partition, and as far as I remember, the load was fairly compressed.

I'll be interested to see how you go with the N160. Just on the surface, I would have suggested a somewhat slower powder (Norma MRP springs to mind), but maybe the N160 will serve you well.

- mike


Compressed loads aren common!


But MRP brings more power than 905 and 905 mor than 160!

Take 560 when using Vithavuori!
28 March 2007, 02:29
Safarischorsch
quote:
Originally posted by cewe:
Just got back from the range and man was I surprised: RWS factory loads (196gr H-mantel) gave me 960ms! Man did they fly! My own load of 69gr only managed 860ms...


The slower the load the less was precision.


Thats the common behavior of 8x68S-loads! dancing
28 March 2007, 07:57
lawndart
quote:
Yes i load the 8x68S with KJG bullets 3500fps...


Hi,
Is that an RWS bullet?
Thanks,

LD


28 March 2007, 13:33
mho
quote:
Originally posted by lawndart:
quote:
Yes i load the 8x68S with KJG bullets 3500fps...


Hi,
Is that an RWS bullet?
Thanks,

LD


Nope, I believe KJG is an acronym for "KupferJagdGeschoss" - a series of very light, mono-metal bullets marketed by a guy called Lutz Moeller in Germany.

http://home.snafu.de/l.moeller/Kupferjagdgeschosse.htm

The resaon you can get such blistering velocities out of this, is that the bullet is kept very light - a strategy our very own "Collani" has also adopted in his "Gian Marchet" mono-metal bullets.

- mike


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The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart
29 March 2007, 09:30
lawndart
Thanks Mike,

Interesting stuff.

I appreciate the link.

John


05 April 2007, 12:11
boha
Just recieved word from Cewe in RSA. The rifle is now tried in the field - Cewe bagged a PAC(?) wildebeest with one 200 grs Sako bullet.

What the wildebeest had done to deserve this I cannot say, but had it lived as sinful a life as its slayer, it must surely have been a PAC wild beast.

Seven days to go and I will join him. Cool

Boha
05 April 2007, 15:29
mho
Well well, make sure to extend a "Weidmannsheil" to Cewe when you have contact with him next. The 8x68S is a pretty formidable caliber, I'm sure it will have worked as advertised.

Good luck for your own upcoming hunt!

- mike


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The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart
05 April 2007, 23:45
Monastery-Forester
If you look to the homepage of Lutz Müller (KJG), look only to his statements over bullets, forget his political statements, they are not representative for the Germans after 1945!!!
07 April 2007, 10:03
.366torque
Well cewe should be putting that beauty to work by now!