Hello everyone, can anybody tell me how accurate is blaser rifles? i own one and the best group is 1 1/2 at 100 yards with some loads
2 1/2 IN 7MM REM MAG ,should i expect more fron this rifles?
THANKS

Welcome to AR

Blaser rifles are one of the most accurate production rifles I have ever shot.

You should be able to find a factory load that shoots one inch or better at 100 yards.

I do not know what choices you have in Mexico, but I would try some Federal factory loads.

Thanks N E 450 No2 ,i tried some factory load and handload as barnes 140 tsx h4350 and fail safe 140 with 59g and the group is a little bit
wide 1 3/4 . i wonder if you make a tight group
my pattern is 3 shots 1 3/4 and the fourth shot fly to 3in 100 yard is this nornal? ,i forgot the rifle is R93 THANKS

aries

First I would clean the barrel really good, getting all the copper and carbon powder fouling out.

Make sure the barrel does not touch the stock anywhere. Also make sure where the barrel attaches to the reciever is free of oil.

Then I would start with 52gr of H4350 and work up.

My Barnes Number 3 Manual shows 57gr as MAX with the older style 140gr bullet.

This is the newest manual I have....

Also check out www.blaserbuds.com and www.blaserpro.com

I have a Blaser R93 with several barrels including a 7mm RM. I have the following:
3 shot group in about 1/2 inch with 60 grs. IMR 4350 and Nosler 160 gr. Accubonds
5 shot group in about 1.3" with 66 grs. H1000 and the aforementioned 160 gr. Accubonds.
I have not done a lot of work since I obtained these groups, as I just wanted to get it ready in case I wanted to hunt with it.
Peter.

If your Blaser R93 isn't shooting 1" or less groups something else is wrong. They are one of the most accurate factory rifles available.......................DJ

Have used many Blaser barrels and found them all to be exceptionally accurate.

As the learned posters on this thread have already mentioned, Blaser R93s normally shoot very well.

Not all barrels are equal, my very first R93 barrel - and this was one of the very early barrels, acquired in 1995 - is not all that fantastic. I can reasonalbly expect 3-shot groups of, maybe 1.25" @100m (110 yds). I have a 6.5x55 which can reach just about 1", and a .375 H&H which is finicky. A friend of mine has a .300 Why barrel, which is a bit of a bitch to get to shoot.

The remainder of my barrels (maybe 9 or 10) all produce consistent sub-1" 3 shot groups - typically .6 -.7". I think I have about 4 that I can expect to break the magic .5" barrier. The most consistent barrels I have are heavy contour ("semi-weight") barrels. I don't own any of the "match", heavy contour barrels.

In general, it is probably not wrong to expect that later barrels shoot better than early ones. I believe I have observed an improvement in both finish (borescope) and accuracy, with the odd exception bucking the trend, over the years. Blaser also increased muzzle diameter of some of their contours over time - my initial .30-06 barrel (1995) has a slimmer contour than my second .30-06 barrel does.

Pretty much all Blaser barrels I have worked with foul pretty badly - they are, after all, industrially manufactured, hammer forged barrels.

- mike

I don't know of a Blaser Rifle never heard of them. When did they come out?

Jro- Germany- part of the Mauser/Sauer/Blaser group.

Probably one of the more popular rifles in Europe. Straight pull action is faster than any conventional bolt action. Interchangeable barrels from .22 to 12g and just about everything in between. A safety that I always describe as being like my Krieghoff...but I am not sure which came first!Anyway, A good system. Bolt locking system is 'different'- some would say controversial.

Downside..Price, and I don't like the magazines and the fact that they only hold three rounds...And if you are really stupid with your reloads and a case head lets go...you are in a world of hurt..(but then the same can be said for a SAKO 85 and several other European rifles that make no real allowance for gass flowing back arround the fireing pin

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I don't know of a Blaser Rifle never heard of them. When did they come out?

They aren't a real rifle, only a piece of machinery, proven by the fact that walter uses one

All three of mine, including when using a 7mm Rem. Mag. barrel, are remarkably accurate.

Way under 1 MOA if I do my part.

My R93 Prestige did have a problem though as it came out of the box. The fore end tip was touching the barrel on one side after the barrel heated up - after a couple or three shots.

I didn't realize this and it gave me fits for a while. The groups were as you describe, aries.

I would definitely check that if I were you. In my case, a few strokes with a round bastard file, some sandpaper and application of some Minwax tung oil fixed it right up. It's a sub-MOA performer now, just like my other R93s.

What loads are you using MR? Of the three barrels I have (375H&H, 300WM, and 7mm RM), the 7mm is the worst performer, accuracy wise.
Peter

hello aries

i live in mexico to, and had 1 blaser now, but a had used 4 of them and all are realy precise.

my actual blaser has 4 barrels 257wby, 7mm STW, 300wby and 340 wby all shoot better than 5/8"-1" at 100 metros.

if you like we can iscost than in a shooting club

best regards

g. ayala

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Originally posted by Peter:
What loads are you using MR? Of the three barrels I have (375H&H, 300WM, and 7mm RM), the 7mm is the worst performer, accuracy wise.
Peter

I have only used factory loads. The most accurate have been the Federal ammo loaded with 160 grain Nosler Partitions.

Next are the same with 175 grain Nosler Partitions.

I have some Hirtenberger ammo loaded with 140 grain Nosler Partitions that I am itching to try, but I haven't yet had the chance.

I have had such luck with the Federal loads that I have not yet been tempted to handload for this caliber.

I am pretty lazy when it comes to hand loading and gun cleaning. I only do it when it is absolutely necessary!

All my R93 barrels shoot better than MOA when I do my part and I have a couple that are well into 1/2 MOA.

Never had any one of them shoot factory or reloads much differently. I reload the more obscure calibers and use mostly factory loads for common rounds.

As mentioned here, check the barrel / stock fit when the barrel is warm to ensure proper clearance and clean any oil from where the barrel touches its mounting location and you can probably expect similar results.

Good luck.

Blaser puts out some good stuff, accuracy included. With any company product there can be flaws so I'd do what NE 450 no2 recommended, if it doesn't work send it back to the company maybe it needs recrowned or new barrel but they'll make it right.

I have several blaser rifles and maybe 7 barrels.

They are boring in the sense that you put on a scope, bore sight it and adjust the scope with only a few shots. Then they just shoot so accurately, the fuss is over. No long sessions at the range.

Perform well in the field as well.

Would do what 450 # 2 wrote. Where did you get the 340 Weatherby barrel?

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By coachsells at 2009-11-21

Good enough to kill the adv whitetail-- I guess

The R93 is - I think - the only bolt rifle on the planet w/out a sear. Jeff Cooper thought that to be a huge advance. Why has no one mentioned this?

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Originally posted by mauser93:
The R93 is - I think - the only bolt rifle on the planet w/out a sear.

Blaser changed their trigger system a few years back (exact year escapes me). I believe the new triggers do have a sear.

- mike

Another example of the R 93 accuracy (all 5 shot groups at 100 meters).


.300 Win Mag


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Aries,
Considering that your rifle groups 3 shots OK and flyers seem to appear with the 4th, I believe the heating bbl. must be touching the forend somewhere. You can probably locate where by sliding a business card along the bbl. If confirmed, a few passes with a file, as suggested above, should cure your problem.

I was always an accuracy nut, and avoided Blasers for some time. I figured it was hard enough getting a rifle into the .5 MOA range when properly crowned and bedded, let alone with a rifle where you could change the barrel in a minute with 2 screws. I discovered differently! I now have 6 Blaser rifles, and with the right ammunition, most of my barrels get pretty close to 1/2". My 7mm Rem Mag does .35 with Federal 160gr Accubonds, and it's my "go-To" rifle for most domestic huts (WT Deer, Mulies, Elk, Aoudad). If you appreciate accuracy, flexibility of calibers with the same rifle, ease of transportation in a breakdown case with 3 barrels.....you will look long and hard to find something comparable to a Blaser R93.

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Originally posted by mho:
In general, it is probably not wrong to expect that later barrels shoot better than early ones. I believe I have observed an improvement in both finish (borescope) and accuracy, with the odd exception bucking the trend, over the years. Blaser also increased muzzle diameter of some of their contours over time - my initial .30-06 barrel (1995) has a slimmer contour than my second .30-06 barrel does.

I was told from Blaser that it's only the very first models that are nitrated on their inside:

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The barrels are plasma nitraded on the outside, the only internal part that is nitraded is where the lock up occurs. (chamber is not nitraded)

Then I asked: Is that all R93 barrels (even previous produced barrels) that is not plasma nitrated?

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I know that some of the first barrels produced were also nitraded internally but this has not been done for many years now.

Then I asked: Does the nitrating on the inside of the barrel have any disadvantages or just no advantage since you stopped it?

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more costs and no advantages