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24 August 2008, 09:15
ForrestB
338-06 Truck Gun
The 338-06 has interested me ever since I started reading about it here and over on 24-Hour Campfire. Virtually everyone who owns one sings its praises. I really liked the idea of building one but I was reluctant to sink a bunch of money into a full-custom job built around what is still essentially a wildcat round.

Over the years, I collected a bunch of parts and pieces that with a little imagination and a fair amount of work could be made into a 338-06. I had pre-War M70 action with a bunch of extra holes in it. Customstox gave me a Pre-64 style safety for a song. SDH offered an old Biesen semi-inlet blank in the AR classifieds and I snatched that up. M1Tanker gave me a set of Warne bases and rings. I had a Blackburn bottom metal unit that I took in payment when I was dumb enough to make Ted a "short term" loan. I found an old scope I bought at a Seattle SCI banquet several years ago. I boxed all the parts up and shipped them to Duane Wiebe and asked him to put together a bargain basement 338-06 for me.

Really, my plan was to build a rifle I could use on backpack or horsepack elk hunting trips or maybe use on an Alaskan moose one day. Also, I thought it would be a good way to try out the 338-06 cartridge and see if I really liked it enough to build a nicer rifle some day.

Duane whittled away about half the Biesen stock, filled all the extra holes in the action and bolted everything together. I'm sure I'm leaving out some of the steps but anyway I've been working up some loads and having fun with the finished rifle for a while now.

It's everything I hoped it would be and then some. For starters, it looks a whole lot better than I had envisioned. It handles nicely and recoil is substantially less than my 338 Win Mag.



The nicest surprise is how well it shoots. My favorite bullets so far are the Sierra 225 and the Remington Ultra Core-Lokt 225. They shoot to the same POI with the same level of accuracy.

I've pretty much settled on either 225 grain bullet over 63.5 grains of Vihtavuori 160 in a Norma case with a Federal GM 210 primer. This load gives me 2575 fps from a 23" bbl.

Here are three three-shot groups with (from left to right) 62.0, 63.0 and 63.5 grains of VV-160. Not too bad for a bargain basement truck gun I think. Smiler



Thanks to all of you 338-06 aficionados who gave me inspiration and advice. Now, I just need to get it out to the woods this fall.


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24 August 2008, 09:24
vapodog

Yessiree.....that's a bargain basement truck gun if I ever saw one!!!!! animal


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24 August 2008, 09:27
GLZ
quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:

Yessiree.....that's a bargain basement truck gun if I ever saw one!!!!! animal


Big Grin I need to shop in that basement!


Les
24 August 2008, 11:37
Winchester 69
What kind of trucks are you going after?
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24 August 2008, 12:45
Shinzo
quote:
Originally posted by Winchester 69:
What kind of trucks are you going after?
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rotflmo



I really like Duane's stockwork from the ones I've seen on AR, a neat blend of traditional & contempory, it might just inspire me to get a decent piece of wood on my 338-06 one day. Pity Duane lives so far away. Frowner
Steve
24 August 2008, 18:59
Rob1SG
Nice looking Rifle. Try some H4350 with those 225's could be you'd get 2650-2700 and the same accuacy. Enjoy
24 August 2008, 19:23
TC1
Looks great and a shooter. Truck gun eh? Looks like it would be my "go to" rifle.

Terry


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24 August 2008, 19:43
p dog shooter
One should see my trk gun a 1895 in 7mm looks a bit differant then this trk gun. This is one I don't know if I could afford the trk for it. Big Grin Very nice.
24 August 2008, 19:46
Dewey
Yeah, it must be HELL to have to use a pos "truck gun"like that...... Smiler Smiler Smiler

I mean, HOW can you STAND it, better ship it to me in BC and then you won't be "burdened" with it!

Choice, very choice.
24 August 2008, 20:05
onefunzr2
Forrest, you forgot to mention what barrel brand was fitted.
24 August 2008, 20:31
muygrande
How can one not luv his Texas kick up truck rifle. Well done and yes, a great caliber no matter what those WM boys say. Enjoy bouncing around S. Texas with that POS!! Cool
24 August 2008, 21:13
srtrax
Dang it Forrest, I was happy with my rifle, until I found out it doesnt even rate as a truck gun... Smiler

Nice group, hope you get a chance to connect something with it / thats the selling point of the 338/06!


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24 August 2008, 21:17
rickt300
Way too nice for a truck gun, gotta be ugly with a synthetic stock and a well used 4X Leupold on it.


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24 August 2008, 21:34
SDhunter
Very nice rifle.

You will really like the cartridge, I know that I have been nothing but impressed with mine. They are a whole lot more enjoyable to shoot that a 338WM IMO. Yet they still thump game with authority.

I usually shoot 210gr NP's & TSX's out of mine for elk and plain vanilla Hornady 200gr SP's for deer.

My next project is to get a nice wood/blued 338-06 in the safe to go with my Remington 700 & 7600 all weather truck guns in 338-06.

Interested in selling yours? Wink
24 August 2008, 21:39
vapodog
quote:
gotta be ugly with a synthetic stock and a well used 4X Leupold Tasco on it.

I thought I'd update the definition of truck gun.

Notice ForrestB didn't say what scope he used.


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24 August 2008, 22:00
30 Caliber Mag Fan
quote:
I need to shop in that basement!



Forrest-

Another masterpiece!!!! Great caliber and excellent execution.

I need to find out the location of your bargain basement!! I would like to shop there too!!!! Wink


May the wind be in your face and the sun at your back.

P. Mark Stark
24 August 2008, 22:14
tiggertate
Makes me want to see the truck!


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24 August 2008, 22:32
ForrestB
Guys I promise it was a pig's ear when I sent the parts to Duane and he returned a silk purse to me. The receiver and bolt were in poor but usable shape however it was rusted enough that I had to replace every small part on the action. The bolt handle had been "altered" and Duane shaped a new one that is identical to the pre-war look.

The Biesen semi-inlet stock had that 70's look going on. The comb was very thick, it had an oversized swept cheekpiece and deep flutes on both sides. The grip was quite tight and it had a lot of flare at the end of the grip.

I asked Duane to shape it as best he could and honestly the best I hoped for was to end up with something like a Dakota profile. It's certainly not as nice as if Duane had the full latitude of working from a blank but I think this turned out much nicer than any Dakota stock.

To answer a couple of questions:
The barrel is a Krieger.
The scope is an old-style Swarovski AV 3-9X

Also, I got a PM asking about the mystery Sierra 225s - apparently Sierra doesn't offer a 338 bullet in 225. I bought these at Graf's. It looks like these are an overrun from a batch Sierra made for an ammo manufacturer. They're bargain basement bullets for my bargain basement rifle.
http://www.grafs.com/product/200044


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24 August 2008, 23:53
fredj338
Very nice rig & she looks to be a good shooter too. Like Rob, I have also moved to H4350 as my go to powder but started playing w/ VV160 a bit & it looks promising. TheH4350 is easier to get & cheaper though. Well done!


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25 August 2008, 00:27
mstarling
Gonna be a heckova truck to do that rifle real justice Wink

Congratulations to Smith and Owner!


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25 August 2008, 01:46
30 Caliber Mag Fan
quote:
The scope is an old-style Swarovski AV 3-9X


Forrest-

I get it now, it's the scope that qualifies it as a "truck gun." Roll Eyes

jumping

Seriously, she's a beauty!!!!!


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P. Mark Stark
25 August 2008, 03:42
bartsche
CoolI'll bet you got the only 4 wheel drive Escalade in Texas. Frowner oh jealous me. Eekerroger


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25 August 2008, 05:23
jstevens
Your idea of a truck gun must be one you just shoot from the truck so you don't scratch. Not many truck guns I've seen with Blackburn metal and Wiebe's work. Mine is a VZ24 in .338-06 with a Boyd's stock and a Timney trigger, no Tasco for me, it has a Zeiss Conquest in Talleys. By the way it shoots as good as yours.


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25 August 2008, 06:38
RANDERSON
That is very impressive from concept through execution. Well done on all levels!
25 August 2008, 07:16
Sendero300
Yes, that's one rifle you can just throw in the back of the truck and not worry about.. Big Grin

Very nice..!!!


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25 August 2008, 10:31
jtinidaho
This must be ForrestB's truck.


26 August 2008, 05:25
Boxhead
And I thought my '09 Argie truck gun was nice.



Back to the basement we go...

That is a nice gun and a fine caliber. I have been pleased with 338-06 for 10 years though I shoot different bullets.
26 August 2008, 05:35
.366torque



My good God! I'll never post a pic of any of mine!!!

Thank goodness your hardwood floor is off a bit, it at least shows you are bit like the rest of us. wave
26 August 2008, 08:33
ForrestB
quote:
Originally posted by .366torque:
Thank goodness your hardwood floor is off a bit, it at least shows you are bit like the rest of us. wave


Actually, that's a bowling alley in the basement of my castle. animal


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26 August 2008, 14:43
Steve Latham
Mmmmnnn!, Very nice, would go just luvverly in my truck cab Land Rover! dancing
27 August 2008, 04:35
jsl3170
forrest,

can you throw up some other photos for us? beauty of a rifle!
27 August 2008, 04:52
namibiahunter
Wow! If that's a truck gun then the only thing mine would qualify for is as tire iron for changing out flats.

Nice!

Namibiahunter



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27 August 2008, 20:28
.366torque
quote:
Originally posted by ForrestB:
Actually, that's a bowling alley in the basement of my castle. animal


I shoulda' known! banana
27 August 2008, 21:20
trouthunterdj
I'd like to have 10 truck guns!! Wink


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28 August 2008, 10:42
K20350
I just checked my basement and I didn't find one damn Swarovski LOL! I love it. That is a beauty of a rifle. My old Chevy will just have to suffer w/ an equally dented and abused Mosin/Nagant (that I will put up against 98% of lever guns in the world accuracy wise). A 338-06 is somewhere along my very long list of Needs,Wants and Desires.
28 August 2008, 19:14
grizz007
a very well done up "truck gun", appears it is ready for any truck you may want to frame it in Smiler

congrats to you and your smith on what looks to be a grand winner!
28 August 2008, 22:11
Atkinson
Nice enough truck gun, after you shoot that gun awhile you'll be wanting to get yourself a nice custom rifle to hunt with! thumb


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