30-06 scope..

15 March 2005, 22:28

HP Shooter

quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Leupold of course...any real hunter will tell you that.

That may have been true ten years ago, but other companies have caught up.

I have a Burris Fullfield II that I'll pit against any Leupold Vari X III in mechanical and optical quality, and Burris' warranty is as ironclad as Leupold's.

Also, it's hard to take seriously any recommendation that so quickly dismisses anything made by Zeiss.

15 March 2005, 22:35

Terry Blauwkamp

quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Leupold of course...:

Ditto from me too............

15 March 2005, 22:53

Reloader

Oh come on Ray, you know that Zeiss would work on any "Real Hunter's" rifle

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They are both good scopes.

Reloader

15 March 2005, 23:17

cobra

quote:
Originally posted by HP Shooter:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Leupold of course...any real hunter will tell you that.

That may have been true ten years ago, but other companies have caught up.

I have a Burris Fullfield II that I'll pit against any Leupold Vari X III in mechanical and optical quality, and Burris' warranty is as ironclad as Leupold's.

Also, it's hard to take seriously any recommendation that so quickly dismisses anything made by Zeiss.

HP, I'll second your assessment of Burris. A few years ago we bought a Burris Compact in 2X7 and it worked out so well we have the same scope on all our rifles now. Great product and great customer service.

15 March 2005, 23:39

mark65x55

It's simple, I got 4 rifles and I got 4 Leupolds

16 March 2005, 00:30

fredj338

Both scopes are great. I prefer Leup. especially the trim 2.5x8. I have (4) & the only other scope I probably would buy is the Zeiss. I've tried just about every other brand & on anything that recoils, it gets a Leup. VXIII.

16 March 2005, 01:09

TC1

If you're into nostalgia, The Leupold is a good choice

Both are great scopes.

Terry

16 March 2005, 01:40

DeltaHunter

I've owned both. The Zeiss would be my choice.

16 March 2005, 02:18

<allen day>

Leupold.........

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16 March 2005, 02:26

kutenay

I have used Zeiss optics since 1967, to make my living in the remote wilderness of western Canada as well as for sport. I have and use a Zeiss West German 4x, several B&L scopes and many Leupies and have shot about everything else, including S&B, Wollensak and Kollmorgan.

For a binocular or spotting scope, I will ONLY buy Zeiss or Leica, period. I seriously doubt that I will ever buy any other rifle scope than Leupold again, my LPS is optically the equal of my Zeiss and the new VX and FX lines really impress me.

16 March 2005, 03:22

jorge

Leupold. I've tried/own every brand. There is no better scope out there. Regardless of price. jorge

16 March 2005, 05:08

woods

The Leupold costs about $400.00, has a field of view of 37', an average eye relief of 4", and weighs about 11.5 oz

The Zeiss costs about $450.00, has a field of view of 33', an eye relief of 4", and weighs about 13 oz

However the Zeiss will pick up a lot more light at dawn and dusk.

I'd pick the Zeiss but pay $30.00 more and get the 3 x 9 x 50 which has a 37.5' field of view and weighs 10.5 oz and definitely will give you a bigger and better picture in low light!!

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16 March 2005, 07:18

HP Shooter

quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
Leupold. I've tried/own every brand. There is no better scope out there. Regardless of price. jorge

Wow!! Moses just came down from the mountain!!!

16 March 2005, 08:47

Savage99

There is quite a difference in size and weight between those two.

I just opened the box on a new VX3 2.5-8 and I will shoot with it Thursday. I will bring two 3-9 Conquests along too on other rifles.

If the new Leu VX3 is as good or better than the Conquest I will say so.

16 March 2005, 09:52

ShopCartRacing

Well, I like to be different.

I like old Japanese Tasco scopes.

Oh, and I like Weaver too.

So thbpptthbtt to your Leupolds

-Spencer

16 March 2005, 10:42

Voldamort

LEUPOLD HERE ALSO.

16 March 2005, 14:43

Leupolds for sure !!

16 March 2005, 18:35

DeltaHunter

quote:
Leupold...........There is no better scope out there

Thanks, I needed a good chuckle this morning.

16 March 2005, 23:05

Savage99

I have the new Leu VX3 2.5-8 mounted now on a Kimber 84M and compared it to a year old 3-9 Conquest that's on the 8400.

My back yard has an open space and then hardwoods after that. I did not expect to see much difference as I would need a good target out there.

The difference between the optics of the two scopes when each is set at 4X is dramatic. More tommorrow.

17 March 2005, 02:40

Ropes

When you have time I would like to see the report. I have not ordered a scope yet as I pointed out in the other thread..

PS - nice back yard, looks like mmine but I have a cotton field between myself and the hardwoods.

John

17 March 2005, 03:05

458Win

I tell all of my clients who ask what type of optics to buy that I don't care as long as the name starts with an L.
It's true that there are a number of good to great optics out there - they are all improving- but Leupold offers the best warrantee in the business on top of the toughest optics. Period. I have had two Burris scopes fog in the past couple of years and all I ever got from them was a hard time when I told them.

17 March 2005, 06:27

Brad

I agree with all the Leupold comment's... for an 06 I'd use the 2x7 VXII... it's svelt, and wonderfully bright... about the same as the older VariXIII 2.5x8 and over $100 less...

17 March 2005, 07:43

Roland1

leupold you can't go wrong.

Roland

17 March 2005, 18:30

dsiteman

Hello,
Product support and warranty are two important aspects of any purchase and the saying about Leuopold is that there is no such thing as a "used" Leupold. Warranty is as good as it gets.
Favor Center!!
dsiteman

17 March 2005, 20:44

model7LSS

i have a Zeiss Diavari C 3-9x36 on one of my rifles and want to get another, but i can only find Diavari DM/V scopes. do they even make the Diavari C any more or is the DM/V its equivalent?

17 March 2005, 21:09

Stonecreek

I understand that the Zeiss provides a very bright, clear picture. That's nice.

The Leupold will have a much more forgiving eye placement "window" (both laterally and fore-and-aft, no matter what the manufacturer's "specs" say), which is vitally important in acquiring the sight picture. The Leupold will also be smaller and lighter. The Leupold has a smaller diameter on both ends, which allows you to mount it lower. Service, should it ever be needed, is a known factor with the Leupold and is somewhat "iffier" with the Zeiss.

There is a big difference in a good telescope and a functional optical gunsight. Leupold knows what is important in a gunsight and makes the optical and mechanical compromises necessary to make its telescope the most functional as a gunsight. Zeiss makes a really good telescope.

17 March 2005, 23:02

HP Shooter

Zeiss has been making optical gunsights since LONG before Leupold ever did.

I think they know what they are doing when it comes to rifle scopes.

18 March 2005, 00:35

RSY

Any of the following:

American: Burris or Leupold
European: Zeiss
Pac Rim: Sightron

RSY

The real work of men was hunting meat. The invention of agriculture was a giant step in the wrong direction, leading to serfdom, cities, and empire. From a race of hunters, artists, warriors, and tamers of horses, we degraded ourselves to what we are now: clerks, functionaries, laborers, entertainers, processors of information. - Edward Abbey

18 March 2005, 02:50

Savage99

quote:
Originally posted by Stonecreek:
I understand that the Zeiss provides a very bright, clear picture. That's nice.

The Leupold will have a much more forgiving eye placement "window" (both laterally and fore-and-aft, no matter what the manufacturer's "specs" say), which is vitally important in acquiring the sight picture. The Leupold will also be smaller and lighter. The Leupold has a smaller diameter on both ends, which allows you to mount it lower. Service, should it ever be needed, is a known factor with the Leupold and is somewhat "iffier" with the Zeiss.

There is a big difference in a good telescope and a functional optical gunsight. Leupold knows what is important in a gunsight and makes the optical and mechanical compromises necessary to make its telescope the most functional as a gunsight. Zeiss makes a really good telescope.

The ghost of Eremicus is with us!

That's not so about the eye placement or eye box or whatever buzz words "E" comes up with.

I shoot them both and the Zeiss is the much better scope. When you really need to make something out the Leupold is not the one to have. If it's a ordinary shot they are fine.

Not long ago Leupold announced they were changing the free transferable warrantee but that hit the fan and we got "fair pricing" instead.

18 March 2005, 18:46

woods

quote:
Originally posted by Savage99:
I have the new Leu VX3 2.5-8 mounted now on a Kimber 84M and compared it to a year old 3-9 Conquest that's on the 8400.

My back yard has an open space and then hardwoods after that. I did not expect to see much difference as I would need a good target out there.

The difference between the optics of the two scopes when each is set at 4X is dramatic. More tommorrow.

OK - you left us hanging. I'll be the dummy.

Results please!