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Re: .277 Cal Making A comeback??

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16 February 2004, 01:45
Major Caliber
Re: .277 Cal Making A comeback??
I never knew the .270 was in any danger!
16 February 2004, 03:29
<eldeguello>
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What will the 7mm/30 cal boys have to say when the .270 bullet listing/variety starts being as long as theirs?






What makes you think this will ever happen? The .270 Win. has been here since 1926, and the .270 Weatherby since the early 1940's. There have been .270 bullets in 90, 100, 110, 130, 140, 150, 160, 170, and 180 grains available off and on since the caliber first appeared. The heavier ones are gone now, probably because they didn't sell well enough.



The .270 does everything it needs to do with just 110, 130, and 150 grain bullets. No other weights are even needed, if you use premium 150-grain bullets for elk & larger animals!



There can never be too many calibers to choose from to suit me! I love the .270. If it was the only caliber available, I would not weep!! But I like the .284's also, as well as .30's, .311's and 8mm's! No flies on .338's, .375's, or .458's either!!
16 February 2004, 01:03
<JOHAN>
Gentlemen

I think that 6,9X64 win and 6,9X65 Weatherby will remain to be the most popular cartridges in the caliber. Why bother to save a inch on a short rifle action and have more trouble finding ammo

/ JOHAN
16 February 2004, 08:34
<JOHAN>
Ricochet



The heavy bullets for the caliber has often great SD and BC which is far better than lighter bullets.



Has anyone tried the 140 partition in 270?



I have orderd a custom rifle in 7mm wby with short throat and is shall launch 160-175 grain missiles. I see very little use of a large case and load a light bullet



/ JOHAN
16 February 2004, 07:06
Ricochet
I don't know. The 175 gr. 7mm and 220 gr. .30 caliber bullets were once far more popular than they are now. Both started off as military bullet weights, for the 7x57 and the U.S. .30-03, and have been popular in the 7x57 and .30-06 for heavier game since. What has cut way down on their popularity isn't lack of effectiveness. It's reading what gunwriters say about poor ballistic coefficients, steep trajectories limiting range, and that "standard" calibers are inadequate for the larger game these bullets are suited to. In short, "magnumitis" and the "shoot 'em in the next county" syndrome.

(Of course, the 175 gr. spire points do shoot mighty well in my 7mm Rem Mag.)

16 February 2004, 10:35
Ricochet
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The heavy bullets for the caliber has often great SD and BC which is far better than lighter bullets.


Oh yeah, I understand. I like the heavy bullets myself, and those are some of the reasons. The original 175 grain 7mm and 220 grain .30s I was referring too, though, were round noses and their BCs were a bit less than the spitzers. Americans nowadays don't like round noses in bolt rifles.
16 February 2004, 06:07
Lou270
eldeguello,

I was just being a little sarcastic/having a little fun with the "what would the 30/7mm boys think" remark. Some people look at it as an advantage that you can get 139, 140, and 145 grain bullets in the 7mms while you can only get 140s in the .270. I agree, that in reality, the .270 gets along very nicely if only limited to the 100, 130, and 150 combo.

The 7mms & 30s have many bullets simply because they come in many shapes & sizes. I highly doubt bullets heavier than 150 gr in 7mm or heavier than 180 gr in the .30s would be popular if we did not have so many magnums in these calibers. I was just conjecturing that since we are getting more .270s with different case capacities, by default we might get even more variety in the .270 bullets (vs. 130 & 150, which are optimum for the Win), not that it is needed.

-Lou
15 February 2004, 14:30
Ricochet
The .270WM's the first of the Weatherby Magnums.