Well Oregon passed the measure 114 I think it’s called. So I’ll probably by no more guns after this one last time. Ok the cartridges I have successfully takin game with is(mule deer, pronghorn, and elk) our 223, 243 win, 6mm rem, 264 win mag, 30-06, 300 win mag, 765x53 Mauser, 8x57 Mauser. Oh yes can’t forget the 3030 Winchester. But out of these cartridges the 3030 took most of my bucks and 1 elk. I used mainly 150’s and 170 grain. I have used hornady 160ftx on the biggest buck I got. What I’m trying to find out is what would you guys and gals prefer to use with out a lot of blood shot on game. Like the perfect cartridge/bullet combination that doesn’t have a lot of blood shot meat. I don’t like wasting meat. The 300 win mag I used did a lot of bloodshot at least with the buck I shot, but I was close to the buck. The times I should of had a bow in my hands I had a rifle and viceversa. The 264 win mag I was shooting 140 gr corelokts factory ammo. I thought that did good on many deer I have takin with it. Not to much bloodshot. Did good on a bull elk at close range about 60 yards away. I hunt open in sage brush and junipers for my mule deer and pronghorn and open and thick forest for elk. The closest I shot a buck was at about 20 feet away I jumped using 30-06 with 180 grain PMC brand cartridges. The longest shot I ever took was about 400 yards with the 264 I had at the time. So I guess what I’m asking is what cartridge/ bullet combo worked for you with close shots to say about 400 yards with the bullet holding together up close and still getting the job done at 400 yards. I know most of it is up to my shooting. But I want a bullet for close and long range without no meat damage. Probably my favorite I used on both deer and elk would be my 8 mm Mauser but I want a rifle/bullet for everything for what I hunt. Mule deer, pronghorn and elk. I’ve been reloading since 2007. Barnes, partitions, accubonds, PowerPoints, corelokts, interlocks, and ftxs all did there job that I liked. Tell me your combos you success in without much damage to meat but made a quick kill. Probably the easiest one that’ll be in gunshots is the 30/06 to find. I load for 2 rifles chambered for it for my son and cousin. I use 180 partition in my sons and gonna load up some 180 grain Barnes ttsx tomorrow using h4350. Last year my son used Barnes ttsx to get a 5 point bull, hit him 2 times at 216 yards and full pass through both shots quartering away. But anyways thinks for your time.

Sad day...that's how they win. Keep putting up barriers until people get fed up and say the hell with it..Buying a gun isn't worth the hassle.

30-06 with any good 180 spire point.

On the other hand, join one of the good gun groups fighting these things like Gun Owners of America.

Give them money to take laws like this to court.

Kennedy,

I'm going to go with the 300 WM with a mono metal 150. I can't imagine anything in the Lower 48 States that I would not take on with it given your parameters.

Mark

What is measure 114? You can only own one rifle? I can't fathom that.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
What is measure 114? You can only own one rifle? I can't fathom that.

https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon...nts_Initiative_(2022)

Now go search for the fountain of youth, your options are better for success!

no such critter! 06 is close but not quite.

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Originally posted by bghntr416:
Sad day...that's how they win. Keep putting up barriers until people get fed up and say the hell with it..Buying a gun isn't worth the hassle.

This was a ballot initiative. The entire voting public chose this. That is why I believe in the Incorporation Doctrine, a basic level of citizenship regardless of where you are located, through substantive due process rights guaranteed by the Federal Courts.

Thus, I strongly oppose the state making these individual right decisions.

What part of the Constitution is the supreme law of the land do these shitheads not understand? What part of "Shall not be infringed" is too sophisticated for then to comprehend?
That BS should go to the S.C. It is completely Unconstitutional.

As for the cartridge choice I would say 270 W, 280 R or 30-06. Any one of them will git er done for your criteria.

Nothing I read in there would preclude most people from buying additional firearms. Yes, the process will be onerous. If you spit the dummy and don’t buy more firearms because you don’t like the hoops they make you jump through then the anti gunners have won.

Is this why I saw several eastern counties of Oregon wanted to join Idaho? I think I would just move. Even though I have taken firearms and hunter training and can pass a back round check. This is just plain un american!

This kind of liberal nonsense is exactly why you should go out and buy MORE rifles, not fewer! Forget about the one rifle to do everything idea.
BTW, our state dropped it's permit to purchase/carry handguns last year. No, crime did not go up.
I heard there were a lot of liberal/socialist/communists, in Portland. Of course, they are so misinformed to believe that hunting rifles are used in crimes. Idiots.
Go buy rifles. Lots of them.

Mine would be a 328-06. 160 gr TTSX takes most game easily. If you want to go on up to brown bear the 250 partition is plenty with same rifle. Took it to Africa and took most of the antelopes but switched to 375 for the dagga boy.

338-06!

375 H&H. Gotta have a proper DG rifle for African Buffalo right?

Alternative: if you are going to get into long range shooting, 6.5 Manbun, 7mm Mag, or .308 make logical sense. It all really depends on how you intend to use it.

The 30-06 with TSX's just works and works. I've used mine on big moose and brown bears, bighorn sheep and mule deer, kudu and bushbuck.

I'm going to Nevada for mule deer next year and I could take my 6.5x55, a 7x57 and several suitable others, but the 30-06 with TSX's is making the trip.

Absent hunting brown bear in AK and DG in Africa, a 308 Win with 165/168 grn bullets.

It sounds like if you go to all the trouble of putting everything together for buying one more rifle, you might as well buy several rifles once you get the approval. Or you could just move out of that communist state.

For myself a 30-06 with 180 gr. Nosler partitions would suit me fine..

The perfect all around gun would be the 300 Win or H&H with the 200 gr. partition or accubond..I have no doubt, it kills..

Like Ray, a good rifle / scope in 30.06 with a quality 165 / 180 gn bullet would be perfectly adequate. Used that long enough to know. But my vote goes to a good rifle / scope setup in 300 Win Mag with a good 180 gn bullet. Just love the capabilities and accuracy of that calibre and bullet combination with my handloads.

375 H&H with any variety of 250-300gr premium bullet. I've had excellent results with 250gr TTSX, 300gr TSX on paper and on game. Thusfar, 275gr CEB Safari Raptors show excellent on paper, but have yet to see game.

For America, 270 Winchester with a 140 grain bullet.

For Africa I have it already, my own 375/404 and 300 grain Walterhog bullet.

North America--30-06 150 grain bullet and the .308 right there with it. If not that then a 30-06 or a .308 with 150 grain bullet. This is for big stuff like elk and moose. Antelope/deer .243 with 100 grain or a .223 with 55 grain.

.30-06 with 180 grain premium bullets. If going to Africa, then need a .375 H&H with premium 300 grainers.

.30-06 with Hornady 165-grain or 180-grain CX lead-free bullet.

If a reloader, as the man says he is, a .300 Win mag. Easy enough to work up loads with bullets like the 165 Accubond for long range mule deer and antelope. To 200 gr TSX for brown bear or moose…can even do 220s for close work on big stuff.

Velocity is what causes blood shot meat. If a reloader…easy enough to make a .300 Win Mag shoot like a .308 Win. Truth be known, a gentle load for the 165 gr Accubond will likely fit 99% of this hunter’s needs it sounds like…from his past history.

While onerous there is nothing restricting by you to a single rifle. More rifles can be acquired. Just more hoops to jump through.

I assume you own several hunting rifles. If your shoot factory ammo then go buy 2 lifetimes worth of hunting ammo. If you’re a reloaded then go buy two lifetimes of components.

But I will Play along with your proposition.

They want you to follow the letter if the law so I will do that.

In america the “Firearm is the serial numbered receiver.

My choice would be a Sauer 202.

You can get barrels in 243, 25-06, 6.5x55,7x57x 270. 308, 06, 8x57 and 9.3x62

One “firearm” and you can hunt everything from rock chucks and antelope to elk and moose and everything in between. For Africa you can hunt anything from small antelope to Buffalo and cats. They only thing you are undergunned for is elephant.

I have a 30-06 pre 64 fwt
A Ruger #1 fwt 1-A in 270
A 308 99F (1950)
A Husky 9.3x62
a couple of 94s in 30-30 and 25-35

I sold off about 15 rifles due to retirement and age, but I use the above all. ONe is as good as the other..

I tried to get the count down even more but gave up on that, it just can't be done by a gun looney.

Oh yeah a Wn 71 deluxe in 348, well there are some more but what the hell..

That was yesterday, today I have to add my 7x57 RJ Renner!!

338WM with 210 TTSX(+3000 FPS) or 225 TTSX(2900 FPS).
Shoot flat and hits hard. The TTSX should not tear up to much meat.

If Africa (375 Weatherby-300TSX.) similar performance to Saeed's proprietary 375.
Knocked the socks off a Brown Bear at 30 feet.

EZ

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Originally posted by ledvm:
If a reloader, as the man says he is, a .300 Win mag. Easy enough to work up loads with bullets like the 165 Accubond for long range mule deer and antelope. To 200 gr TSX for brown bear or moose…can even do 220s for close work on big stuff.

Velocity is what causes blood shot meat. If a reloader…easy enough to make a .300 Win Mag shoot like a .308 Win. Truth be known, a gentle load for the 165 gr Accubond will likely fit 99% of this hunter’s needs it sounds like…from his past history.

I totally agree with Lane's post!
Load it up or down to suit the game being hunted. Easy!

Zeke

To answer the original question: 30-06 & 165Gr TSX.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by bghntr416:
Sad day...that's how they win. Keep putting up barriers until people get fed up and say the hell with it..Buying a gun isn't worth the hassle.

This was a ballot initiative. The entire voting public chose this. That is why I believe in the Incorporation Doctrine, a basic level of citizenship regardless of where you are located, through substantive due process rights guaranteed by the Federal Courts.

Thus, I strongly oppose the state making these individual right decisions.

I disagree that "the entire voting public chose this". The ballot measure passed by by a tiny margin(49.5 to 50.5?).

I point this out because it shows just has easy it be for them to take our rights once the divide us.

Best one is the one that works for YOU!

No one else.

I only hunt Africa, built two specific rifles to meet my requirements.

Both turned out to be perfectly suited for my needs.

Hunting South Africa, for plains game, I built a 30/404.

180 grain bullets at almost 3500 fps.

Animals drop in your scope before recoil takes over!

My PH kept saying I WANT ONE OF THESDE.

For dangerous game I built a 375/404.

Again, beats anything I have tried.

This year I shot 11 buffalo, two lions and one leopard, as well as a variety of plains game.

One shot each.

That is what is called meeting all requirements.

For the sake of conversation the 06 with 180 or 200 Noslers or Accubonds, same for the 300s..

The 165 is popular and of course gets the job done, but I see it as neither fish nor fowl, no better than a 150 gr. and not as good as the 180 for bigger stuff..according to my late friend Finn Aagard...and it made since to me..

500 Jeffery for everything! Jack rabbits to dinosaurs.

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Originally posted by JBrown:
To answer the original question: 30-06 & 165Gr TSX.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by bghntr416:
Sad day...that's how they win. Keep putting up barriers until people get fed up and say the hell with it..Buying a gun isn't worth the hassle.

This was a ballot initiative. The entire voting public chose this. That is why I believe in the Incorporation Doctrine, a basic level of citizenship regardless of where you are located, through substantive due process rights guaranteed by the Federal Courts.

Thus, I strongly oppose the state making these individual right decisions.

I disagree that "the entire voting public chose this". The ballot measure passed by by a tiny margin(49.5 to 50.5?).

I point this out because it shows just has easy it be for them to take our rights once the divide us.

That is the choice of the entire voting public. It is no different than the pro life folks claim about abortion. The Federal Courts shall decide if this law is an unconstitutional action of the majority. However, prior to Heller and it’s lineage the Supreme Court said this was fine.

I guess we'll see what happens in the Fed courts with this law. In the meantime, and living in CA, it is good justification for buying more guns now. As to the OP's issue, I'd choose the rifle I've used for everything for some time: Ruger No. 1 300 H&H. Of course not for Cape buffalo. But for everything else I care to hunt. For the buffalo, another No. 1 in 450/400.

If you live where the deer are on the small side then I’d go with the .270 Win. If the deer are bigger where you hunt then I’d go with the 7mm rem mag. Both versatile cartridges, just one with a bit more power.

If it exists, who wants only one of them?

Too much is never enough.

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
If it exists, who wants only one of them?

Too much is never enough.

When I was young and unmarried.

We had a moto.

One can never have too many girls friends.

One can never have too much money.

One could never have too many rifles.

Now I am married with a family, I have to forego the first!

Luckily, I have a wife who does not mind me following the second and third!