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22 August 2002, 06:18
Palmer
300 Dakota
Anybody have any experience with this round? How would it compare to the 300 WSM?
22 August 2002, 06:56
Zero Drift
palmer - Apples and oranges. The 300 Dakota is based on the .404 Jeffery case and squirts a 200gr bullet over 3050fps. The 300WSM is a short action mag (obviously) and is about a 100 to 200 fps slower. The Dakota feeds well from a magazine, where the 300 WSM is still having feeding problems. Short and fat cases do not lend themselves to smooth, reliable magazine flow.

.300 Dakota
OAL Case Length - 2.55"
Base Width - .545"

.300 WSM
OAL Case Length - 2.10"
Base Width - .555"
22 August 2002, 07:02
Bob Mehaffey
I don't have any experience with it but I've read a lot about the Dakotas. The 300 is 3006 length, OAL 3.34. It's based on the 404 Jeffery case. 180 gr at 3100-3200 fps. The 300 WSM is a good bit shorter, made to work in the short actions. From what I've heard its close ballistic wise to the 300.
22 August 2002, 07:05
Bob Mehaffey
Hey ZeroDrift, If I had known you were posting yours while I was posting mine I would have left mine off. Thanks, now I know about the 300 WSM.
22 August 2002, 07:07
Zero Drift
No worries mate.
22 August 2002, 08:30
fredj338
zd is right, the .330 Dakota is more like a .300 wby w/o the belt in a std. action. I have a 7mm Dakota & like their cart. designs. If I wanted a custom rifle in a 30 mag, this would be my choice.
22 August 2002, 11:18
<JOHAN>
300 Dakota is a 300 Win mag on steroides [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

All this nosense about the latest beltless cartridge from big green and winchester. Don Allen and Dakota were one of the first to start this beltless avalanche [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

I have always wandered why no major factory has picked up the dakota line of cartridges. They are well designed and not that overbore. It's based on a well known case. 300 WSM and 300 SRUM, eat your hearts out [Big Grin]

I think, I have to have one [Confused]

/ JOHAN

[ 08-22-2002, 02:19: Message edited by: JOHAN ]
22 August 2002, 12:42
Palmer
Thanks for the info.

Can the 300 Dakota cartridges be purchased anywhere other than from Dakota? They seem pretty expensive from Dakota but are they worth it - I mean are they more precisely loaded than from a factory like Federal?

I would like to learn to reload but so far have not found anyone to teach me. In the meanwhile I would be buying loaded cartridges.
22 August 2002, 12:52
<JOHAN>
palmer

If you don't buy ammo from Dakota they only source I know of is "El Casa" ammo [Big Grin]

Reloading is not a must but sure helps [Big Grin]

/ JOHAN
22 August 2002, 14:03
fredj338
Palmer, I think Dakota is the only manuf. of their ammo. It is good stuff, but a bit pricey for practice ammo.
Reloading isn't difficult to learn. Get (2) good reloading manuals & read them several times. Buy appropriate dies & a reloading setup & away you go. Most of us learned to reload on our own w/o the benefit of the internet & sites like this where we can ask questions & get input almost immediately. Jump in & give it a try, ask as many questions as you need to.
25 August 2002, 19:16
<Tigar>
Palmer, I sure wouldn't buy a Dakota unless you plan to reload or have more dollars than sense. I have a 300 Dakota and like it. However, the cost of their ammo/cases isn't a reflection of quality but more of an economy of scale issue - they don't produce nearly as much nor as efficiently as the big guys. You may pay $1.70 for a piece of brass vs $.35 for 300 Weatherby etc. - the brass isn't better (unfortunately sometimes worse). Plus they have no competition selling ammo for their guns, so they can gouge you a little.

I like the round. Some brass will last quite a while. Do as was suggested above - get a couple books on reloading, read a bunch of old posts in the reloading forum and have fun.

(Depending on barrel length etc., you should get closer to 3200-3300fps with a 180gr)