Where are my .270 and 7mm E-Tip bullets. I see them listed on Midway as 'Coming Soon', 'Soon' was two months ago.

There's loads to be developed and feral hogs to kill and you people are holding me up.

Gee, perhaps you should ask Midway for defintion of 'coming soon'. I wonder if anyone did order something marked 'out of stock, backorder ok'. I'm guessing not... ?

Try this site: Nosler Discussion Board. You can ask them directly. Their moderators are pretty good about getting answers from the company to questions on their products.

I wish Nosler would get off their rears and over-produce some 9.3, 375 and 416 bullets of all varieties so that they will end-up as "seconds" in the Shooter's Pro Shop.

It's been a long time since they've had anything in the larger calibers.

I love it when Midway send me their super-sale e-mail advertisments and half the items are marked "out of stock" or "back order". Need to get their act together.

Kind of like all of the 7mm STW brass except Remington - I have been on the watch list for several of Midway's Coming Soon items that I have had to resign up for twice, and I those last for months. One of these was from Nosler. At this point anything is better than nothing, but I guess there must be a difference between soon and Midway soon.

Jason

Nosler's just about gotten too involved in advertising the next best thing and too busy hauling gunwriters off to exotic places for free hunts so they can tell me about in the magazines I subscribe to.

Was it not ever so? Yeah, but it's worse now.

-WSJ

I just mine my cool And before long bam it here
I have something on back order right now come to think of it.

I guess I'm just a luddite. There are bullets on the market now that satisfy me. And I've bought large stocks of them. I would imagine my grandchildren will be shooting NP's and dual core Grand Slams and Woodleighs and such and killing stuff very dead with them.
No flavor of the month magic bullets tho.

i'm with stillbeeman - partitions have always worked for me and i'll stick with them for the duration. my son also shoots them exclusively.

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Originally posted by stillbeeman:
I guess I'm just a luddite. There are bullets on the market now that satisfy me. And I've bought large stocks of them. I would imagine my grandchildren will be shooting NP's and dual core Grand Slams and Woodleighs and such and killing stuff very dead with them.
No flavor of the month magic bullets tho.

stillbeeman,

I agree with you that there are plenty of bullet designs that work just great. I would be happy to use nothing but partitions and accubonds for all of my hunting provided I could find a load my rifles like. Unfortunately I am moving back to San Diego this fall, so most of my pig and deer hunting is going to be in an area requiring "condor friendly" bullets. I hope the e-tip works out because I haven't been able to make the Barnes unleadeds work very well to date in my .30-06

Being a curious but very low tech person I am wondering, these mono metal folks, in order to match bullet weights, have had to make their bullets quite a bit longer and so a different rifling twist might be needed to stabilize the bullets.
Barnes, it seems, has tried to make a virtue of it by saying you can get by with a lighter weight bullet but I wonder.........?
I don't recall the formula --if I ever knew it-- for determining the maximum rifling twist for a given length of bullet but I'm wondering if it would be different for say a 180gr Rem Core Lokt and a 180gr Barnes BR549 WHATEVER?

Greenhill formula

"One of the first persons to try to develop a formula for calculating the correct rate of twist for firearms, was George Greenhill, a mathematics lecturer at Emanuel College in Cambridge, England. His formula is based on the rule that the twist required in calibers equals 150 divided by the length of the bullet in calibers. This can be simplified to:

Twist = 150 X D2/L

Where:
D = bullet diameter in inches
L= bullet length in inches
150 = a constant

This formula had limitations, but worked well up to and in the vicinity of about 1,800 f.p.s. For higher velocities most ballistic experts suggest substituting 180 for 150 in the formula. The twist formulas used in the Load From a Disk program, featured at this web site, uses a modified Greenhill formula in which the "150" constant is replaced by a series of equations that allow corrections for muzzle velocity from 1,100 to 4,000 fps.

The Greenhill formula is simple and easy to apply and gives a useful approximation to the desired twist. The Greenhill formula was based on a bullet with a specific gravity of 10.9, which is about right for the jacketed lead core bullet. Notice that bullet weight does not directly enter into the equation. For a given caliber, the heavier the bullet the longer the bullet will be. So bullet weight affects bullet length and bullet length is used in the formula."

http://www.loadammo.com/Topics/July01.htm

-Bob F.

This site has charts showing barrel twists-bullet lenghts for almost all calibers.http://stevespages.com/page8e.htm

Since time began, all the arms and arms related companies have been slow to get first production out, as the demand is so great, then when they get caught up the demand dwindles as a rule...

Trust me, don't get your shorts in a wad wanting a new item, just put it on the back burner and wait until they are available in a year or two down the road...

Understanding the process will make your life more tolerable, your ulcers will come later in life, your mental capabilities will last longer, as will your heart, and those misplaced passion of youth will fade as you mature...