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06 June 2006, 11:03
.366torque
Nosler introduces the follow up rifle to their custom.
And it's a 280 AI! 500 of them. For $3,995.
http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=11&b=7
06 June 2006, 17:23
mho
I wonder if they will offer factory ammo, and (more importantly) .280AI brass (i.e. no fireforming required)?? Probably not...
- mike


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06 June 2006, 17:43
Thomas Jones
Wow !
I would never have guesed that was comming !
I think they should give a little more info on the rifle. What kind of action is it,? and so forth. I am playing with a 280 AI right now model 70 classic action 23 inch Douglas tube.
Just fired fireforming loads with Varget so far but I will give a bit of a workout this weekend. ...tj3006


freedom1st
06 June 2006, 18:06
Jaywalker
I understand (from John Barsness, maybe?) that the 280AI is about to become a factory round.

Edited: Of course it's a factory round - Nosler's rifle makes it so. I meant to say that Nosler would be making brass for it in their Custom line, I think, so no fire-forming.

Jaywalker
06 June 2006, 18:10
vapodog
It's about $4,300 too much.....about $3,300 to much for the rifle and a grand they'd have to pay me to own anything stamped with the "tell tail" mark of an idiot.....the "AI" stamp.


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06 June 2006, 19:08
TC1
Why do they have to make things complicated? Could have just chambered it in a 7mag and been done with it.

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06 June 2006, 20:33
mho
quote:
Originally posted by Jaywalker:
I understand (from John Barsness, maybe?) that the 280AI is about to become a factory round.

Edited: Of course it's a factory round - Nosler's rifle makes it so. I meant to say that Nosler would be making brass for it in their Custom line, I think, so no fire-forming.

Jaywalker

Way cool! If that is the case, I'll buy some brass off them - even if the Nosler brass is a bit pricey. It would be worth it (to me) not to have to fiddle with fireforming.

- mike


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06 June 2006, 22:28
mehulkamdar
I saw their limited edition rifle as well as a production version that they are going to offer with a synthetic stock at the NRA convention. To my amateur eye the production rifle looked better than the limited edition one - they didn't have the new 280 AI verwsion there, only the now discontinued 300 WSM one.


Mehul Kamdar

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06 June 2006, 22:51
<JOHAN>
quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
It's about $4,300 too much.....about $3,300 to much for the rifle and a grand they'd have to pay me to own anything stamped with the "tell tail" mark of an idiot.....the "AI" stamp.


I'll agree with you Smiler Smiler

Cheers
/JOHAN
07 June 2006, 01:45
jstevens
The AI stamp part may be true, but some of them actually have a place. The .220 Swift AI does do away with a whole lot of case trimming. That said, the price of the rifle is still about $3000 too high. You can buy a real nice custom piece for $3995, on a better action.


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07 June 2006, 02:13
HunterJim
Nosler has submitted the .280 AI to SAAMI for designation as a factory "standard". Their plan is to offer brass and loaded ammo in their custom ammunition line.

jim


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07 June 2006, 12:42
mho
That would take care of the disadvantages of the .280 AI. Other than too much hassle with the cases, it is a great cartridge.

- mike


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07 June 2006, 17:38
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by HunterJim:
Nosler has submitted the .280 AI to SAAMI for designation as a factory "standard". Their plan is to offer brass and loaded ammo in their custom ammunition line.

jim


If this is true and, I wouldn't know why it wouldn't be.....it's indeed a tribute to "Reverend" Ackley and a cartridge that has far more likelyhood of success than any of the WSSMs or SAUMs etc.

Since I suspect most all new 280 remington's today are being custom built, there's a strong likelyhood most of them in the future will be for the improved round.

I can only assume Nosler will define the "new" round at 65,000 PSI.

Now.....maybe we can get an official 6.5-06 too?


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07 June 2006, 23:25
.366torque
quote:
Originally posted by HunterJim:
Nosler has submitted the .280 AI to SAAMI for designation as a factory "standard". Their plan is to offer brass and loaded ammo in their custom ammunition line.

jim


I'm glad I started this topic. While I'm not a fan of $4,000 push feeds, the 280 AI intrigued me. That Nosler is legitamizing it speaks of it's prowess. Naysayers aside, the AI work over of CERTAIN carts works.
08 June 2006, 08:15
FN in Montana
The .280 AI IS a neat cartridge. Forming brass and reloading isn't the big deal that apparently overwhelms some shooters. Brass life is good too. If Nosler produced brass I'd try some.

If it does finally get "legitimized" (SP?) I wonder if the .338-06 could be far behind???

FN in MT


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09 June 2006, 02:59
mr rigby
it`s not nosler who produces the brass, its norma who does that and have i got from a very reliable source who works at the norma factory .
09 June 2006, 03:26
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by mr rigby:
it`s not nosler who produces the brass, its norma who does that and have i got from a very reliable source who works at the norma factory .

No reason to not believe you here.....Hornady now makes their own brass so it's not a horribly enormous problem to do.

No reason Nosler can't as well , but I'd accept that Norma is the producer.


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10 June 2006, 06:07
22WRF
Okay, I am dumb and I will bite. What does the .280AI have that the .280 Rem doesn't have?
10 June 2006, 06:37
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
Okay, I am dumb and I will bite. What does the .280AI have that the .280 Rem doesn't have?


To a reloader.....about 100'/sec at the most.....

To a person that don't reload.....a quite a bit more as it'll be loaded hotter.....( I assume)

It'll come very close to the 7 MM Rem Mag in power and hold another round in the magazine.

To the deer you're going to shoot at next fall.....not a damn thing!!!!!


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10 June 2006, 21:29
22WRF
quote:
To the deer you're going to shoot at next fall.....not a damn thing!!!!!



That's what I thought.
13 June 2006, 03:43
Brent Yates
I beleive the 338-06 has been "legitimized, by A-Square, and I believe Weatherby chambered some rifles in it, and Weatherby still offers ammunition