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358 WINCHESTER
07 January 2004, 05:40
375 alaska358 WINCHESTER
I want a bolt action 358 prefering the mod 70 action, what is the most economicaly way to do this?..... Buy a used short action mod 70 and have it rebarreled, buy the action alone and then have it barreled, use a cz action maybe cheeper? any advise will be apreciated. Greg
07 January 2004, 06:31
ElkslayerDon't know if what I am doing is the "cheapest" way, but, I am "building" actually, having components assembled for me, a 358winny on a Montana Rifleman action
(MRC) and having them barrel it too. Then I'll get a stock from
ACRA-BOND.
My cost of the stainless short action was $350 because I ordered mine during the charter issue sign-up period. They have quoted a price of around $330 to barrel this action. According to the Acra-bond website a stock will cost somewhere around $290 for a semi-inletted "drop-in" unfinished stock.
I expect this project to run around $1,000 when all said and done (without scope and scope mounts).
07 January 2004, 10:46
375 alaskaThanks Elkslayer, anybody else? Thanks
07 January 2004, 10:58
POPFind a cheap Rem ADL or WIN shadow in 308 and just rebarrel.
07 January 2004, 11:02
Savage99There was a Ruger 77-1 for sale here a while back for $450 and a debate insued if it was worth it. I have one here to work on and for that price range it will put the game on the ground.
If you can find a M70 for sale for say $400 just make sure it's a stock that you want or there will be more expense.
Then a barrel is going to run hundreds and there is bluing as well.
Don't buy a CZ if you don't want one. Who wants to spend decades looking at an action and wishing it were something else?
The 77 has it's barrel cut to 19" and while I have suggested that a 20" barrel might be just right rather than the traditional 22" I now feel that if I were ordering a barrel I might get one cut to 21" and try it out. Sure enough this rifle on the chrono cannot keep up with a 22" barrel as it's running 75 fps lower.
07 January 2004, 12:08
ElkslayerI had a Rem M7 re-barreled by MRC from .308 to 338-08. They did a very good job on the barrel, a #4 contour @ 22", nice crown, matte blued the action and the barrel. Everything fit back into the original synthetic Rem M7 stock (with just a tad bit of opening the bbl channel for the larger bbl).
The rifle shoots 5-shot 100-yard 1" to 1 1/2" groups using 200 gr Hornadys. That is about as good as I can hold using a 4X scope and not really trying to break any world record for small one-hole groups. Just checking zero on a short range elk rifle.
The total re-barrel job cost just under $400 not counting what the original .308 rifle cost.
08 January 2004, 03:10
Whelen Nut375
Several years ago I had a M700 in .308 rebored to .358 for $200. Shoots great. Heck of a deer and bear rifle. Just another option.
WN
08 January 2004, 03:56
Bob257I did mine the more expensive way I guess. I had to buy a new stainless model 70 in 308 because I couldn't find a used one. I wanted the Winchester because their short action is a little longer than Remington's. Then I sent it to Shilen and had them rebarrel it. I also bought a Bell and Carlson stock to replace the cheap plastic stock. The bottom line.. I have a great shooting rifle in 358 Winchester! If you can buy a used action, go for it!
Bob257
08 January 2004, 04:55
375 alaskaMany thanks to everybody! 375
08 January 2004, 05:32
.358Best thing and most cost effectibe is to buy a used rifle you like nd have it rebored. I did this 3 times and was pleased each time. Tjhe last was a Ruger 77 in .308 rebored to .358 I picked the rifle up at a gun show for 300 and the rebore job was 180 However I'm a lever fan and found a used M81 BLR in .358 in shop in Tenn.( a forum user told me about it) and I bought it for 450 , darn good rifle, shoots great and proven in the field on bears, boar and deer.
08 January 2004, 05:50
R-WESTUnless you can find an action pretty cheap, you'll probably have to buy something and modify it. I'd look at the HOWA 1500's. Good, solid Mauser'ish design (not CRF tho..., if that's a concern), and pretty reasonably priced. They sell barreled actions (it'd be nice if they just had actions available separately).
http://www.legacysports.com/product/index.htmMy 358 started life as a short action M700 that I scarfed up for $270 because its 6mm Rem barrel was rusted/pitted. Shaw stuck a 21" #2 contour barrel on there, I hogged out the barrel channel of an old Mtn Rifle stock I had lying around, and for a total under $1G, I have a 358 Mtn Rifle.
R-WEST
10 January 2004, 11:29
mr308winCheck out the charles daly guns if you want an affordable mauser.
10 January 2004, 12:20
VFRGlad to see all the .358Win enthusiam. I am working up loads for my 9.3x57 with 250gr Noslers using .358 loads as a starting point. Bob
10 January 2004, 17:17
LAWCOPGET a Savage 10 or 110 in .308 and then get a bbl through Midway and fit it yourself. ll you need is a headspace gauge and a wrench for the Savage nut.
Midway is offering all sorts of bbls in different calibers you can easily change to.
15 January 2004, 16:52
Whelen35Great idea with the savage!!! I was lucky, I foud a vz-24 actioned custom gun that someone put a lot of money puting together at a gun show and purchased it right at about $.40 on the dollar to put up. If you shop you may find a deal, but hte 358 is mighty hard to find. People who have one love them and seldom get rid of them.
15 January 2004, 18:40
Dr. LouI picked up a Sako AII in 243 for $450, bought a Shilen stainless bbl for $195, and paid a smith $125 to chamber, contour and mount the bbl. My favorite rifle for deer, black bear and pigs. In fact I just finished loading 20 rounds about 30 minutes ago.Lou