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31 March 2004, 17:47
Urodoji
Ruger Express Rifles
If anyone is interested in these, Davidsons has these in .30-06 and .270 Win. on closeout and a pretty fair price. There are 58 in stock right now in -06, 99+ in .270.
01 April 2004, 01:37
JeffC
I checked their website and couldn't find any references. How much are they selling for?
01 April 2004, 06:14
Urodoji
I got a weekly specials email in from them. That price might only apply to their "Gold" dealers. I'm selling them at $870 each.



Edit: Talked to Davidsons, they also have 6 left in 7mm Rem. Mag.
01 April 2004, 08:45
ChuckWagon
Does any one have a photo or a link to the statistics on the express rifle ?
01 April 2004, 08:54
Urodoji
http://www.galleryofguns.com/gungallery/PowerSearch/Product.asp?item_num=77RSEXP%2D3006&index=12&max=20&start=20&instock=None&manufact_combo=Ruger&mod_ser_combo=None&category_combo=None&model=None&g_type=None&act_type=None&finish_type=None&calib_combo=30%2D06&sight_class_combo=None&price_range=None&qPromoID=&EZ=&left_handed=&youth=&item_only=0&oldsql=WHERE+manuf+like+%27%25Ruger%25%27++and++%28Caliber+like+%2730%2D06%7C%25%27+or+Caliber+like+%27%25%7C30%2D06%27+or+Caliber+%3D+%2730%2D06%27%29+ORDER+by+manuf%2C+unk2%2C+unk3
01 April 2004, 11:13
BFaucett




It's similar to the M77 Magnum rifle but the Express was in smaller calibers.



Ruger has discontinued the M77 Express (but not the M77 Magnum).



-Bob F.
01 April 2004, 14:52
ChuckWagon
so theese are available in 20 for $870 ? Is that total or are there other fees and what do you charge to ship ? I'm in Mi. Does any one know if the trigger is adjustable on theese ? Looks like a fine gun. For 41600 retail from Ruger it should come with decent wood.
01 April 2004, 15:57
Urodoji
I'd have no problem getting you a .270 in. Add about $15 for me to ship to your FFL. A check for $885 would put one in your local gunshop with your name on it. No guarentees on wood though, nothing much I can do on that, luck of the draw. I'm not for sure on the trigger, I've never bothered to even try adjusting mine(I have a magnum in .375 H&H).



-Uro
01 April 2004, 17:32
Chuck Nelson
The triggers are not adjustable but adjustable. If that makes sense. A competent gunsmith or do it yourselfer can easily do it.

Chuck
02 April 2004, 07:43
Savage99
Urodoji,

Are those actions true CRF? If so can you post a picture of the bolt face of one in say 270 or a similar cartridge?
02 April 2004, 10:26
BFaucett
I don't have a pic of the bolt face, but they are CRF.
They use the standard Ruger M77 Mark II action which is a CRF action.

From Ruger's web site:
"Ruger's proven bolt action design includes a one-piece bolt
and a non-rotating Mauser-type controlled-feed extractor,
the most positive case extraction system ever invented. The
fixed-blade-type ejector positively ejects the empty cases as the
bolt is moved fully rearward.
"

Here's an article by Jim Carmichel in Outdoor Life where
he uses a Ruger M77 MkII Express in .30-06 in Africa.

The .30/06 in Africa
by Jim Carmichel



-Bob F.
02 April 2004, 11:53
Iron Buck
All current Ruger MArk II actions are true CRF.
02 April 2004, 14:19
Savage99
The Ruger Express that I have here is not CRF! I am having trouble posting pics right now but it's a Mark 11 push feed!

I could email someone a pic to prove it but it's not CRF.
02 April 2004, 15:19
Urodoji
A Mk II push feed? Odd. Either way, these are listed as controlled round feed with non rotating claw extractor. BTW, my rep at Davidsons told me today they will do handpicks for wood for an extra $10 bucks.
02 April 2004, 16:28
sabre
I have a ruger express that was push feed. I milled the lower part of the rim off, and it is now crf. In fact it is the smoothest best feeding of all my crf rifles. No modification to the extractor, or magazine needed.

03 April 2004, 02:46
Savage99
Sabre,

I was thinking of grinding that part of the bolt face off. If you had a picture of what you did it would help.
03 April 2004, 04:32
BFaucett
If I remember correctly, I think some of the very early M77 Mark IIs were push feed. They had the new 3 position safety but still had the original earlier style M77 bolt (push feed with Mauser-type claw extractor). That didn't last long until Ruger changed the Mark II action over to a CRF.



-Bob F.
03 April 2004, 07:06
sabre
Bob,
I think you are correct. I also think the early ones got a little more attention before going out the door. There is no reference to owners manual etc on barrel either.
I put the bolt in the action just like in the picture. Scribed a line on the rim from the feed rail on each side at an angle similar to other crf bolts I had on hand. Mounted it in a mill and machined the rim off. Cleaned up machining marks, and put slight bevel on new edges with 600 grit paper. Be careful not to remove material from the face or you will change your head spacing. Frankly, I didn't attempt this untill I saw the offer for new rifles, so I could replace it if I ruined it. Also if it didn't feed afterward, I would not have known wheather it was the mag, extractor or bolt face that was the problem and would have had to take it to a smith. Call it beginners luck. I know some machinery, and metallurgy, but I'm not a gunsmith.
I wish you could see how slick it works.
Dan
03 April 2004, 07:09
ChuckWagon
Does any one have the stats on the 270 express ? barrel length, weight, mag capacity ???
03 April 2004, 07:27
BFaucett
Ruger Express Rifle M77RSEXP MkII



Caliber: .270, .30-06, 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, .338 Win Mag

Magazine Capacity; 4 rounds Standard Calibers
Magazine Capacity; 3 rounds Magnum Calibers

Barrel Length; 22" Standard Calibers
Barrel Length; 24" Magnum Calibers

Stock: Circassian Walnut
Receiver: Blue
Safety: 3 Position Safety
Sights: Front:Blade -- Rear:V-Notch, 1 stationary, 1 Folding
Weight: 7lbs 8oz

Both the Express and the Magnum share features normally found only on custom rifles. The barrel and sighting rib are painstakingly machined from a single bar of steel - a luxury detail found only on these Ruger bolt-actions. The solid rib incorporates folding-leaf express sights, ruggedly dependable in their own right or as a practical backup to an optical sighting system. Both rifles are factory-machined to accept Ruger steel scope rings.
The Circassian walnut stock, traditionally contoured and handsomely checkered, is a feature associated with only the best-quality rifles. Timeless beauty, superb refinements, and exceptional features make this rifle hard to duplicate at twice the price!

03 April 2004, 13:50
ChuckWagon
BF, Thanx for the info and the the link to the story. It was Good reading.
04 April 2004, 11:38
Urodoji
Chuck, check your PM's.
04 April 2004, 15:01
Savage99
Sabre,

Thanks for those excellent close up pictures. I am not sure what I am going to do with the Express. Right now it's just a safe queen and fun at the range.

I have a mind to leave it alone. It feeds just fine as it is.
05 April 2004, 17:16
Stryker225
How does Ruger produce rifles with integral quarter ribs and still keep them at that price??!!1
05 April 2004, 18:35
ART338
For what its worth, Gun Tests Magazine gave the Ruger Express Magnum a glowing review and felt it was a bargin and gave it an "Our Pick" raiting over both Winchester and Weatherbys equivilents.
07 April 2004, 13:44
ChuckWagon
Did you get one in today ??????
07 April 2004, 15:29
Urodoji
Quote:

Did you get one in today ??????




I got in 2 handpicks today. I'll email you the pictures tomorrow.
07 April 2004, 15:45
ScottS
Sabre,

That bolt face isn't a push feed bolt face! That IS the controlled round feed M77 MkII bolt face. The push feed has a plunger style ejector! Nice try though.

Looks to me like you milled down the lug extension. Not too aweful smart, but if it makes you happy, I guess that is what really counts.


Scott
08 April 2004, 08:47
Redlander
Now, if one of thoses happened to be a 9.3x62mm, I might have to break out the plastic.
08 April 2004, 10:49
ChuckWagon
Thanx, but I found a local Davidsons dealer that got me one for $900 OTD. He tells me Davidsons does hand picks free of charge. The real problem is the cost of transfers and shipping. After the $20 hand pick and 4% visa charge plus the transfer I would have been spending a lot more. Your price is still a great deal for some one in your state or where transfers are less costly.
08 April 2004, 15:12
Savage99
ScottS,

Mine is a push feed with a Mauser type ejector!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/p01a773f3c93497ccf29b7d2c99fef548/f928b0dc.jpg
08 April 2004, 15:17
Chuck Nelson
The original Mrk II's were hybrids, and are easily converted to CRF as has been shown already. Despite what ScottS thinks he knows.

Chuck
08 April 2004, 16:42
ScottS
Well that just shows what a shit-for-brains I am!

You guys have forgotten that I am no good useless troll. I own no guns, am a member of PETA, never hunted in my life, etc, etc.

Scott
08 April 2004, 17:09
Chuck Nelson
We haven't forgotten!

Chuck
08 April 2004, 21:34
Urodoji
You guys should be ashamed!! Can't we all just get along, and make fun of Judy?