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What .30 cal cartridge chambering for a custom rifle?

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01 July 2005, 02:06
BrooksRange
What .30 cal cartridge chambering for a custom rifle?
I am looking for an All-Weather Stainless Steel, Kevlar-fiberglass-composite type stocked model 70 custom. Weight around 7.5-8.5 pounds bare- in 300 Win.Mag., H&H or Wea. or Jarett chamber. Heard some things about a .300 Dakota too.<B>25" barrel, no longer and no shorter</B><BR><BR>It would be my primary hunting rifle to hunt the world. Main focus Canadian and Alaskan species: Moose, Caribou, Sheep, Elk, Black Bear, occassional interior Grizzly, all African plains game (though on Eland I'll probably use a .375).<BR><BR>Which listed Cartridge and why? I will mainly use 200gr. premium bullets. I might try the occassional 165-168gr. for Sheep and Caribou.<BR><BR>Also, will consider improving the chambers of some of these if it makes sense at all. Again, I need someone with experience on this please.<BR><BR>Thank you again gentlemen.300 H&H Magnum300 Winchester Magnum300 Weatherby Magnum300 Dakota300 Jarrett
01 July 2005, 02:12
Jiri
Just .30-06, but from your choices, .300 win mag, because it is classic and can do everything .30 cal can do . . .

Jiri
01 July 2005, 02:12
fredj338
Brooks, the WBY, is an "improved" .300h&h. The Dakota is based on a shortened & improved .404 jeffery. Brass is available for the Dakota, I have a 7mm Dakota & really like it. If you were going classic african express rifle on a M70, I would have voted .300h&h. thumb


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01 July 2005, 02:18
McCray
Not much difference there, but I'd choose the WinMag. Ammo everywhere if something happens to your checked luggage, and it's popular enough you may even have some choices, some with premium bullets.

The others don't offer enough advantages to offset the disadvantage of finding ammunition in an emergancy.


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01 July 2005, 02:23
RickF
Magnum action and a 25" barrel? To me that screams 300 Wby.
01 July 2005, 02:25
tiggertate
My vote was 300 Win but 2nd choice would be the Weatherby. When hunting around the world it seems logical to pick something available anywhere in the world.


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01 July 2005, 02:31
Lawdog_Gary
The .300 Weatherby Magnum. Ammo is available world wide on top of being a class act. Lawdog
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01 July 2005, 04:19
<allen day>
I primarily hunt with the 300 Win. Mag., and have for many years. It's my favorite all-around cartridge, and I don't see any solid reason to go with anything else in this cartridge class. It's inherently accurate, recoil and muzzle blast are reasonable, ammo and brass is widely available world-wide (more than any other 300), barrel life is significantly longer that most other 300s, and there are no throating issues related to finest-accuracy versus high-pressure factory ammo (as is the case with the 300 Wby.) to sort out, etc. The 300 Win. Mag. is very easy to work with gives you all you need out of the 308 bore size, period, with a minimum of hassle.

As to the others:

The 300 H&H is great, but ammo and brass are not that available, and the romance factor of old British cartridges is mostly lost on me, especially if it comes at the expense of logistics.

300 Weatherby is excellent, but, as previously mentioned, you must throat your rifle to work best with either factory ammo (longer throat) or else handlands. Kicks harder than 300 Win., shorter barrel life, ammo is not as widely distributed, etc., No practical difference in real-world velocity or effect on game.

300 Dakota: I don't like the price of the ammo or the brass, I dislike its extremely limited availability, and I resent the anti-belt propaganda that Dakota has resorted to as a marketing ploy.

300 Jarrett: A vanity cartridge that serves no constructive purpose other than make you dependent upon Jarrett Rifles for your ammo and brass requirements. Try finding this stuff in Jo-Burg..........

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02 July 2005, 03:56
PAHunter
Hi BR....

My favorite is not listed... the 300 RUM... probably a little faster or close to the Weatherby Magnum. It hits like the hammer of thor...

Mine shoots factory ammo Remington Nosler 180 and 200 grain Nosler, both point of aim, and both sub MOA. From 300 RUM shooters I know... they just seem to really shoot well.

This is my go to rifle, has taken 14 head of African Plains Game, Bull Elk, and even Coyotes.

This is a rock stock Remmie with a trigger job... thats all. And yes I do have two full blown custom rifles, one over the $3500 mark and the other over the $5000 mark, with two semi customs in there around the $2500 mark.

Regards.... Jim P.


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07 July 2005, 18:09
Magnum308
I voted for the 300 Win Mag, but only because there was not a choice for the .308 Norma Mag or 30/338 WM. These are the real classic short belted magnums and the rest have been playing catch up ever since, except the .300H&H of course.

Cheers & God bless,
Magnum308


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08 July 2005, 07:57
Magnum61
I voted for the .300 win mag. Winchester's version of the .300 is just a nice package of accuracy,power,versatility,ease of reloading and shooting, and recoil. The Weatherby and others seem to change one of those factors listed too much to justify them unless you truly want a rifle with an identity in the locker.


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-The 30-06 is like a perfect steak next to a campfire, a .300 Win Mag is the same but with mushrooms and a baked potato-
08 July 2005, 09:15
TC1
I voted and built mine in a .300 H&H No stainless/synthetic on this gun.

I've heard and understand why some absolutely need to be able to buy factory ammo in a pinch.

Mine hunts close enough to home for this not to be a problem.

I've got a factory .300WinMag (stainless/synthetic) If I should ever go globetrotting for game I would probably take it. Nothing special about it except it's very reliable and accurate. Wink

Terry


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09 July 2005, 05:07
Idared
The nostalgia in me says 300 H&H, but I would have to vote for the 300 Win Mag also from a practical point. Besides ammo being plentiful I have never seen one that couldn't be made to shoot very well with little effort. I have seen some 300 Weatherbys that were a bit more fussy about their ammo than the average 300 Win Mag.


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09 July 2005, 06:41
ajwsm
300 win mag plenty of power for any animal in N. America less the browm bears thumb
10 July 2005, 03:36
Atkinson
I shoot the 300 H&H and with heavy bullets, 200 and 220 gr. it will surpass all but the 300 Wby due to the case capacity not being intruded on by the bullet...It has served me well over the years and I see little reason to change, I shot a 300 Wby for a time, but sold it and went back to shooting my 300 H&H...


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10 July 2005, 05:08
cobra
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Originally posted by Lawdog_Gary:
The .300 Weatherby Magnum. Ammo is available world wide on top of being a class act. Lawdog
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Ditto, plus I like the Weatherby action better than most.


10 July 2005, 05:16
bigbull
I voted for and use a 300 Dakota and believe it to be the best choice for a high velocity standard length cartridge. If practicality is your main concern then I would choose the 300 Win.Mag. I don't care for the long bolt throws of the H&H or the Wby or UM for that matter. And yes I like my cases without a belt!
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