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Has any of you heard of the .358 Wells Express?!?

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24 February 2006, 22:38
woodsracer
Has any of you heard of the .358 Wells Express?!?
Check out the BOTTOM PIC (scroll down)!

It looks like it is based off of a .505 Gibbs and would slam an elk to the ground, WAY out there! thumb Does anyone have any info on this round, as it's not listed in Ken Howell's "Custom Cartridges" book? bewildered


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24 February 2006, 22:43
cobra
quote:
Originally posted by woodsracer:
Check out the BOTTOM PIC (scroll down)!

It looks like it is based off of a .505 Gibbs and would slam an elk to the ground, WAY out there! thumb Does anyone have any info on this round, as it's not listed in Ken Howell's "Custom Cartridges" book? bewildered


Judging by the size of that thing, I'd say it probably needs it's own area code. lol


24 February 2006, 23:06
BigNate
Dang that looks big! Looks a bit overbore actually. It would be fun to check out. Nate

P.S. JGS has a reamer
25 February 2006, 01:14
Kenpo_Joe
If it's based on the Gibbs, then the case is longer than the 358 STA by .3in. Eeker


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25 February 2006, 01:37
.366torque
quote:
Originally posted by BigNate:
Dang that looks big! Looks a bit overbore actually. It would be fun to check out. Nate


Looks like a 7mm RUM! Dang that is a big case! Imagine a barrel burning 358, sounds buffalo flatteningly fun!! cheers
25 February 2006, 02:30
BigNate
If thats a .500 Basic case to the left, is the RUM based on this? I was thinking it was based on a .404 Jeffery. Show how little attention I pay to the truly huge cases! This .358 Wells Express may run the .338 Lapua into the ground.

Is there a long Matchking in .35? Hmmmmm.........

Nate
25 February 2006, 02:38
interboat
I fired one once with ammo Fred Wells had loaded -- 250-grain bullet chronographed at 3,500 fps. I said I fired it once. Fred just passed away, but his wife Rachel is still running the shop. 928-445-3655.
25 February 2006, 03:00
Bwana-be
Good lord, that thing looks silly! I thought my round was too big! Thing is, I've gotten 250's close to 3150fps with a Jeffery case. I don't see a reason for that as it is, and can't imagine wanting to go 350fps faster, with about twice the powder!
I'm glad someone's done it though. Kinda makes the 358-416 Rigby look almost reasonable! Just think what you could do with a 310g VLD seated to about 4.5"!


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25 February 2006, 03:10
.366torque
quote:
Originally posted by BigNate:
If thats a .500 Basic case to the left, is the RUM based on this?

Nate


Sorry, no, I was making casual referance to the size of the case compared to the bullet diameter. Bloody huge!
25 February 2006, 03:12
.366torque
quote:
Originally posted by interboat:
I fired one once with ammo Fred Wells had loaded -- 250-grain bullet chronographed at 3,500 fps. I said I fired it once. Fred just passed away, but his wife Rachel is still running the shop. 928-445-3655.


For what it's worth the 250 grn. bullet fired at 3500f.p.s. is around 6800 ft.lbs. at the muzzle!
27 February 2006, 23:35
BigNate
quote:
Originally posted by interboat:
I fired one once with ammo Fred Wells had loaded -- 250-grain bullet chronographed at 3,500 fps. I said I fired it once. Fred just passed away, but his wife Rachel is still running the shop. 928-445-3655.


I want to know more. What is the case based on? Is it .500 Basic? What is the case capacity? How does it compare to say one of the RUM's or .30-378/ .338-378 Wby?

I really don't see this as a "need" but long range toy really. It is interesting to say the least. Nate
01 March 2006, 20:19
woodsracer
quote:
Originally posted by BigNate:

I want to know more. What is the case based on? Is it .500 Basic? What is the case capacity? How does it compare to say one of the RUM's or .30-378/ .338-378 Wby?

I really don't see this as a "need" but long range toy really. It is interesting to say the least. Nate


From the picture, it looks like it is based on a .505 Gibbs......and that is a WHOLE LOT bigger than a .338/378 Wby! thumb


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