The Accurate Reloading Forums
Where can I get a decent 1909 Mauser action?

This topic can be found at:
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3221043/m/507102023

21 August 2005, 12:13
lawndart
Where can I get a decent 1909 Mauser action?
Want to make a 9.3x62.
Thanks
LD
noak@direcway.com


22 August 2005, 01:23
denton
Try Numrich item # 851010. It's not a 1909, but it is a decent modern commercial action. It will need some slicking up inside, but it's cheaper than starting with a military action... no amputating and reattaching the bolt handle, replacing the safety, etc.

How ya been?


Prove all things; hold fast to that which is good.
22 August 2005, 03:25
TC1
I should have two some time tomorrow. They are being returned from a gunsmith who backed out on a job. I plan on selling both. If your interested, send me a PM tomorrow and I'll have pictures and prices.

Terry


--------------------------------------------

Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
22 August 2005, 07:57
lawndart
Hey Denton,

Doing ok. Got a new shorthair puppy chewing up the house. Back surgery went well; ain't dragging the leg around now. I'm getting the gun building fever again. I'll give a shout before our next visit to Salt Lake City. Lois and I sure enjoyed visiting with you and your better half. We need to visit with 500 grains as well.

Yeah, several folks have recommended that I stick to the post war commercial actions. I think discretion may be the better part of valor for the most part.

Terry, my e-mail is noak@direcway.com . Send a picture or two; I may screw up some courage down the road.

lawndart


22 August 2005, 08:38
Ray
quote:
Originally posted by denton:
Try Numrich item # 851010. It's not a 1909, but it is a decent modern commercial action. It will need some slicking up inside, but it's cheaper than starting with a military action... no amputating and reattaching the bolt handle, replacing the safety, etc.

How ya been?


Denton:

Would you recommend a similar action (not the same part number, of course) for building a .338WM? If so, which one should I buy?

The action number you provided above is good for cartridges up to the .30-06. However, I would have to use one that would be good to at least a 7mm magnum to avoid bolt-face modification.
22 August 2005, 08:47
schromf
quote:
Yeah, several folks have recommended that I stick to the post war commercial actions. I think discretion may be the better part of valor for the most part.


Lawndart,

I have done both, built a 1909, and gone the commercial. Both cost, one costs a little more. But in the end it all comes down to what you want, I wanted a cherry 1909, and I got it. I won't do another 1909 without heat treating first.

To do the 1909 additon cost for grinding, heat treating, and for sure a bolt handle change, definately make this a more expensive option.

But boy are they nice when done right.
22 August 2005, 09:37
22WRF
yea, that 1909 Argie will cost you a bit more, especially if you have it carburized a bit and a new bolt handle, safety, etc. BUT if you find a real good one to start with, they are so beautifully machined and so slick and the bolt just moves like a hot knife through butter, that it just might be worth it to use the 1909 unless you are doing the project for the heck of it and won't keep the gun for awhile after your done with it.

1909s are nice.
23 August 2005, 01:03
denton
Ray, I don't have any experience building magnum rifles on Mauser actions. It seems to me that it is an awful lot of extra work. You might want to look at Montana Rifle Company... not sure, but I think their actions may be a better starting point. I do kinda like Pac-Nor barrels, if that helps.

222WRF, the commercial action I recommended DOES NOT slide like a hot knife through butter, and that is one of the issues the builder gets to attend to. Some of the right grinding compound should set that right. They aren't bad to begin with, but they are not as good as the 1909's, until you work on them.

lawndart--back surgery?? Bummer. Glad it went well. I had some minor sinus surgery a while back and was really amused to find that I woke up with a mild sunburn from the operating lights. I had just never thought about it before. (No extra charge for the tanning bed...) Look forward to seeing you guys next time you're down.


Prove all things; hold fast to that which is good.
23 August 2005, 07:05
lawndart
quote:
To do the 1909 additon cost for grinding, heat treating, and for sure a bolt handle change, definately make this a more expensive option.

But boy are they nice when done right.

What the heck; I can spread the project out over a long time and enjoy the process. Maybe even enjoy the journey.

TC1, you have a PM.

lawndart


23 August 2005, 09:22
mehulkamdar
Try here

Good luck!


Mehul Kamdar

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."-- Patrick Henry

23 August 2005, 19:45
schromf
Lawndart,

That is a really good idea, take your time and do a 1909 right. Yeah you won't have it done in 4-6 months, but when you get it done you will have something special.

This leads to a couple other questions? What are you plannning on chambering it in? And who are you plan on having to do the grinding?
24 August 2005, 00:15
lawndart
6.5x55, 7x57 or 9.3x62. All great cartridges that get the job done at mild pressure levels.
If the surface is in decent shape I'll just hand polish it and save all the cartouches and acceptance marks. If it needs a formal grinding there are several guys who do great work; I'll decide where to send it when the time comes. It will definitely get re heat treated/carburized. After that it will go through an X-ray/magnaflux. Since I make my living with my head and hands I don't want to take any avoidable risks.
If there is anything wrong with the action it goes through the cut off wheel and gets converted into four equal sized little chunks of scrap.

lawndart


26 August 2005, 11:14
lawndart
I just saw pictures of the action. It is very nice. No polishing necessary. This is going to be fun.
lawndart