14 September 2002, 08:14
<Wildcat>Typical Accuracy in .284 Win for a Reloader
Can anyone tell me if the .284 Win is a very accurate cartridge? Actual Numbers appreciated.
Thanks
14 September 2002, 10:14
dan belisleHow accurate is accurate? Target, benchrest, hunting, plinking, what? Mine will go under an inch for five shots with Hornady 154 gr spitzers, at 2900 fps. That's about the best I can shoot. - Dan
14 September 2002, 22:54
<1GEEJAY>Hey'
I think the question,is to vague.It does't address,as to what gun you are using,or what guns the responders are using.The .284 based brass,can be very accurate,in it's original design,and also as a wildcat cartridge.It depends on the pipe it comes out of.
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15 September 2002, 02:35
<Wildcat>I don't see how telling what application the barrel will be used for will help. I don't want people saying things like 'Its accurate enough for varmint hunting.' Thats my decision to make.
If it matters that much it will be used for competition and maybe hunting.
As for components: consider thae action and everything to be of good quality and the barrel to be a Douglas XX.
15 September 2002, 03:01
Mike375Wildcat,
I would say that unless the rifle is at benchrest level it is very hard to see any difference in accuracy between different calibers that are in the same category and even then it will take several rifles before it shows up.
In other words if you made a rifle in 270, 280, 284, 308, 30/06, 7mm Rem etc. you would not want to bet too much on which was the most accurate.
But if you made 20 rifles in each of those calibers, then probably it is reasonable to say the 308s would show as best, but the difference would be very small.
For example, a 270 with Heavy Varmint taper bench barrel mounted on a glued in Rem 700 and with standard chamber from JGS reamer and with full length sized brass will average .5" using Nosler Ballistic Tips.
A Heavy Varmint 6mm PPC benchrest gun with neck turn dimensioned chamber on a Stolle action will be about .25" average using custom benchrest bullets.
So we are talking about .25" difference between those extremes so you can imagine the difference between similar calibers in the same type of rifles is very small.
Mike
15 September 2002, 03:25
AlI double what Mike says. I have a pair of 284 on Remington short actions with #2 Shilen barrels. Both shoot around the 1/2" mark all the time @ 100yds. Not bechrest by no means, but plenty good enough for hunting. 284's have a long throat and if I were to do it again, I'd get the reamer with no throat, then use a throater for whatever bullet I'd be shooting.
15 September 2002, 04:04
BigEdWildcat, several years ago, I had the opportunity to speak with Mel Forbes of Ultra Light rifle fame at the NRA convention. I asked about one of his medium action rifles in .284 and he said he'd build one for me only if I promised to turn the necks on the brass. I didn't get the Ultra Light (yet) but I do have a nice 98 Mauser in .284. The Winchester brass is strong as can be but the necks aren't uniform. This is one of the rare instances where neck turning brass makes a noticeable difference in a hunting rifle. Ed
15 September 2002, 04:27
<eldeguello>Almost every cartridge is potentially accurate. There may be some exceptions, but, generally, if your rifle is properly made with a quality action, barrel, trigger, sights, stock, and correctly bedded, it will shoot well REGARDLESS of the cartridge for which it is chambered. It is true that cartridges with short, fat powder columns tend to be more consistent in their ballistic performance than long skinny ones. The .284 Win. is one of the short, fat ones, and is VERY consistent in its velocity spreads. The other rounds made on the .284 case have also proven to be extremely accurate (vis. 6mm/.284, 6.5mm/.284, etc.)
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