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anyone here with a 9.3 X 64?
13 January 2007, 06:02
vapodoganyone here with a 9.3 X 64?
This thing appears to be the equivalent to the 375 H&H fully!
It's built on a case for a short (standard) action and is somewhat smaller in diameter than a standard magnum.
To put it mildly.....it's what the 375 Ruger is trying to be.....except we can get ammo and reamers for the 9.3 and not the Ruger.
Is ammo readily available?.....we talk a lot about the 9.3 X 62 but rarely about the 'X 64....
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13 January 2007, 06:29
.366torqueIn Canada, no it's not. I scoured all accross the country and found 3 boxes. I've been told it's getting harder to get Euro ammo. No one knows for sure why.
13 January 2007, 10:33
ArcticI think Ralf Martini still has some 9.3X64 brass, and the bullets are around if you look. ~Arctic~
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13 January 2007, 10:40
lawndartAs soon as I get my paperwork back from the ATF I will start cranking out 9.3 x 64, among other types of ammo. It will be available with North Fork bullets, but I will have no problem honoring any requests for Nosler partitions, GS Custom, etc.
The export license will take another year or two, I'm sure.
The main hold up is my health. As soon as Hemispherix gets off their ass and gets approval for Ampligen, I will be back up to speed, and working the handle on the loading presses with a will.
I am starting to look see if I gan get in some Russian 9.3 x 64 ammo for practice, and soft skinned game. If the brass is decent (steel cases obviously need not apply), I can reload it, Boxer or Berdan.
In the interim, Huntingtons carries RWS and Horneber brass. Both cost about $1.40 per case. Very good brass.
Does anybody have a recent back issue of shotgun news that talked about the Russian 9.3 x 64 ammo? I would surely appreciate a copy of that.
Back to you Vapo (and guess what I would be willing to trade you for some ammo

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LD
13 January 2007, 11:14
ALF/
13 January 2007, 13:14
BearpawMidway USA got some ammo
Ammo 9,3x64
"Given a better timing and better luck, the 358 Norma Magnum could have been one of the greatest calibers of all time"
13 January 2007, 14:08
Bent Fossdalquote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
This thing appears to be the equivalent to the 375 H&H fully!
It's built on a case for a short (standard) action and is somewhat smaller in diameter than a standard magnum.
To put it mildly.....it's what the 375 Ruger is trying to be.....except we can get ammo and reamers for the 9.3 and not the Ruger.
Is ammo readily available?.....we talk a lot about the 9.3 X 62 but rarely about the 'X 64....
Well, it has 87.04 grs water capasity compared to H&H's 96.37....and a smaller diameter bullet....so I would not call it fully equivalent....
But it is a super cartridge, and if it sported a .375 dia. bullet, it would have given enough legaly for all Africa, with one more in the magazine than the H&H.
That is why I am so mad at the .376 Steyr - it is the x64 opened up to .375 - BUT shortened 4mm!!!! Goddammm......

Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
13 January 2007, 14:53
vapodogI see my customary 100 rounds of startup ammo will run me a full $500.....and that can take a lot of fun out of shooting when it's $5 a pop.....this from a guy that lamented the $50 a box from Hornady for the 375 ruger.....but it's not relevant the price as it's just not available.
Opening ones eyes to all the goodies available is a bit of fun.....but it's clear why the ' X 62 is so popular.....
I'm looking to use the VZ-24 for a dg round and the 9.3 X 64 sure seems to be all of that.....and beltless as the more I look the more the belt is dispensible and preferably so.
I have considered the 375 Taylor and machining off the belt.......but am not excited about that either. Gueess I'll wait for the Hornady brass.....
I'll bet old Stevo is being real fun to be around with sales waiting and he can't deliver.....I wonder who is suffering the brunt of his frustration on this one????
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13 January 2007, 14:59
tassoI decided I needed a 9.3x64 and set the wheels in motion. I did not find it too difficult to locate brass (160 pieces), although not cheap. I have already got dies and shell holder. Have picked up a commercial 98 actioned rifle, ordered a Lothar/Walther bbl (waiting for it to arrive), and will soon have it together. Planning to mount a 30mm tubed scope on it in the 1.5x6 power range.
I have not found it overly difficult so far, and I reside in Australia (Melbourne). Even found a source of readily available loaded RWS ammo, just have to move away from the regular gun shops that are not interested in supplying products that are obscure.
Tasso
13 January 2007, 20:19
BushmanDKHi.
I have a Tikka T3 Varmint Stainless in 9,3x64.
Simply buy a standard Tikka 9,3x62 and use a chamber reamer. You also have to open the bolt a little to accept the bigger cartridge.
I contacted the factory, and they told me it was OK.
I load my own ammo, using Swift A-frame 250 + 300 grains.
I live in Denmark, and here factory RWS ammunition is no problem.
BushmanDK
13 January 2007, 20:54
djpaintlesI got to play with a buddies 9,3x64 built on a pre-64 M-70. It's a great round and ever since playing with his I put a 9,3x64 is on my to do list. On my last trip to Germany I managed to pick up 300rds of RWS brass. Not cheap but it's great brass. I still haven't figured out which action to use but I'm open to suggestions..................DJ
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13 January 2007, 21:19
octaveI have one in a Blaser rifle.
short and fat and hard to get at, hit like a hammer and never been hit back.
13 January 2007, 21:39
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by djpaintles:
I still haven't figured out which action to use but I'm open to suggestions..................DJ
I can see no reason it wouldn't feed thru a vz-24 or similar action.....bolt face and rail alter but not a hill for a climber
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13 January 2007, 21:40
KurtCI used to have this Voere commercial 98 in 9.3x64. With the the aluminum triggerguard and mag assembly, it was very light. Brutal on both ends.
13 January 2007, 22:04
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by KurtC:
I used to have this Voere commercial 98 in 9.3x64. With the the aluminum triggerguard and mag assembly, it was very light. Brutal on both ends.
F***ing exquisite!!! A buddy has one of those in an '06. It's deadly accurate! Sumbitch won't part with it though.
14 January 2007, 03:52
Idaho SharpshooterBearpaw,
that's not real ammunition, it's a-square! The question is where can we buy brass at a reasonable price?
Rich
14 January 2007, 07:35
lawndartHuntingtons
14 January 2007, 07:37
lawndartquote:
I see my customary 100 rounds of startup ammo will run me a full $500.....and that can take a lot of fun out of shooting when it's $5 a pop.....this from a guy that lamented the $50 a box from Hornady for the 375 ruger.....but it's not relevant the price as it's just not available.
What bullets do you want in your ammo? We can take care of you for a lot less than $500.00.
14 January 2007, 10:56
vapodogquote:
What bullets do you want in your ammo? We can take care of you for a lot less than $500.00.
Lawndart....t seems brass isn't available.....and I've learned from these posters that this really isn't a hugely popular round.....disappointing as the case seems like a winner......sai la vie!
I'll just have patience....the 375 Ruger will sooner or later have brass available.....this has been awaiting for a long time now.....a bit more won't hurt at all.
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14 January 2007, 11:40
lawndartVapo,
I have the brass, I have North Fork bullets, I have Nosler Partition bullets, I have the correct gunpowder, I have the correct primers, I have the dies (they are even polished to a mirror finish).
I'll even buy the reamer and let you rent it for chicken scratch (or credit toward a VZ-24).
Who's your buddy??
14 January 2007, 12:02
ALF/
14 January 2007, 19:18
jstevensAlf
When I hunted in Namibia a couple of years ago, my PH was carrying a Steyr in 9.3x64 exactly like the one you show. I had no idea it was CRF. He considered it an equal to the .375 H&H in every way and had used it on cape buff, etc.
A shot not taken is always a miss
14 January 2007, 19:53
ChopperGuyBrass, bullets and dies are EASY to obtain.
Huntington's just shipped mine to me - 200 rounds of RWS brass, RCBS reloading dies and the proper shell holder. All arrived about 2 weeks ago.
Haven't had time to chrono my loads with the North Fork 286s on top, but accuracy was good in my pressure testing rounds.
This will likely be my go to 9.3 cartridge, even though I really love my 9.3x62 and 9.3x74R rifles.
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15 January 2007, 00:25
lawndartHi Chopper Guy,
Are you using H-4350, or going a touch slower?
LD
16 January 2007, 03:05
ChopperGuyH4350 was my first choice, however I didn't locate any data to start from so I went to my old reliable H4895. I've had EXCELLENT luck with that powder in my 9.3x62 so when I found data, I went with it for now.
Again, haven't chronographed my loads, just test fired and no pressure signs. Test loads shot well in the 25.5" barrel on my rifle.
H4350 works well in my 9.3x74R with the same bullets so far.
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16 January 2007, 03:13
270Model70Natchez Shooters Supply is where I've gotten my RWS brass. They show 9.3x64 is currently in stock. Retail is $25.28 per 20.
16 January 2007, 09:40
Idaho SharpshooterB. Doerr,
Thank You Very Much!!! So, $280 or so gets me my "number" for a new rifle project, 220 cases. Twenty to load work with, and two Case-Gard 100's to fill up when I get the load I plan to use. Did they have dies and shellholder in stock as well?
knowledge not shared is knowledge useless.
regards,
Rich
DRSS
CZ 9,3x62 fan
16 January 2007, 10:18
SDhunterBushmanDK,
I love that rifle. I don't think that model is being imported into the US or I would definitely own one.
To all:
What's the easiest way to get a 9.3x64 in the US? Buy a 9.3x62 and rechamber?
16 January 2007, 10:37
BushmanDKSDhunter.
Beretta is the importer of Tikka, and they have the T3Varmint in 22-250 + 223 + 308. Maybe they will take the 9,3x62 home in special order.
Here is a link to the specifikations of the Tikka T3 Varmint stainless.
http://www.tikka.fi/pdf/specs/T3VarmintStainless.pdfI had no problems rechambering for 9,3x64.
By the way - I visited SD in september 2006, it was a very nice experience. You can see some pictures from my visit here.
http://www.bushman.dk/sider/rejser/USA06/SouthDakota.htmSorry if my english is not correct

Regards from Denmark
BushmanDK
16 January 2007, 10:45
johnnyrebSomeone on this board had their CZ550 American in 9.3x62 rechambered to 9.3x64. Outside of the rechambering, the bolt face had to be opened, but if I recall correctly, no feed rail work was needed. Magazine capacity was reduced from five rounds to four...
16 January 2007, 13:20
lawndartquote:
H4350 was my first choice, however I didn't locate any data to start from so I went to my old reliable H4895. I've had EXCELLENT luck with that powder in my 9.3x62 so when I found data, I went with it for now.
Again, haven't chronographed my loads, just test fired and no pressure signs. Test loads shot well in the 25.5" barrel on my rifle.
H4350 works well in my 9.3x74R with the same bullets so far.
I'll dig out some 4350/RL-19 data for you later this week. 4895 would be perfect for the 250 grainer.
I've got some Somchem powder loads, but don't recall if that correlates to one of the European brands or not. I'll give Don Heath a jingle after SCI.
Cheers
16 January 2007, 13:22
lawndartNice rifle Alf,
I like that one "convertible" case in the middle picture.
LD
16 January 2007, 14:09
Paolo9,5x73Wish more bolt rifles were like that Voere and had "on/off" tang safety right where the safety belongs. Why do they put that stupid 3-position safety on guns with hinged floor plate or d.magazine?
16 January 2007, 18:05
tomo577re: safety location
because their lawyers tell them to put that 3 position abortion that winchester foisted off on the shooting public.
well you see it finally caught up with them and they went out of business.
a mauser flag safety for those concerned about locking the firing pin (why i don't know) or the proper safety - a top tang safety.
but it takes a good rifle maker to do it - maybe that's the real answer !
ruger used to do it on the 77 but i think they went down hill and changed.
TOMO577
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16 January 2007, 20:06
Paolo9,5x73Central Europeans don't even want this goofpop. It might have a following in Russia and France as they like goofy things there.
16 January 2007, 20:12
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by tomo577:
re: safety location
because their lawyers tell them to put that 3 position abortion that winchester foisted off on the shooting public.
well you see it finally caught up with them and they went out of business.
Please supply a link to any documentation suggesting that the lawyers did the engineering and that this is what caused the closing of the plant in New Haven.
In fact.....this statement is unfounded and rediculous!
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16 January 2007, 20:25
Paolo9,5x73I never use mid position on my Heym. Thankfully it's equipped with a large lever mounted on bolt shroud in a way that does not interfere with bolt manipulation.
16 January 2007, 20:40
SDhunterBushmanDK,
That's my part of the country. I live in Spearfish and work in Deadwood. Been to Trevino's leather's more than once.
I need to call Beretta and see how tough it would be to import a special order and check the cost of course.
18 January 2007, 03:28
ChopperGuyLD:
Thanks - I'd love doem data to start from. the 9.3x64 has a lot of potential for my use from what I've seen so far.
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18 January 2007, 11:25
lawndartShoot me a snail mail address chop:
johnnoak@cableone.net
I have about twelve pages of prime stuff for you.