Okay I know someone is gonna be a smart A$$ and give me a bunch of grief over this question but I'm gonna ask it anyway. I've been around guns my whole life and I've never heard of a BOSS. I've searched a few posts to find pics of one and I've even searched the internet looking for one!!!! What does it do and does anyone have a picture to post on here for me and all of the other guys and gals on here to see?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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started going on Browning rifles in 90s some time. I think it stands for ballistic optimized shooting system. It is a dynamic muzzle break originally, that would turn on the end of the bbl and allow you to "tune in" a load. After awhile, they stopped putting holes in it so no brake, but kept the system.

Well that helps a little... How exactly do they "tune in" a load? Do they somehow change pressures...? I have read a few threads that say they improve accuracy, and a few that say they are just a noise makers.

They may work, but they sure are ugly!
GWB

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Well that helps a little... How exactly do they "tune in" a load? Do they somehow change pressures...? I have read a few threads that say they improve accuracy, and a few that say they are just a noise makers.

It works as a weight at the end of the barrel. As you screw it one way or the other you change the hamonics of the barrel. Assume the barrel is vibrating up and down like a sin wave you want the bullet to leave at the top or bottom of the swing when the barrel tip is more stationary.

I have a couple on Winchester barrels.. I like them!

they work as designed...

I usually don't disagree with G.W. but I like the looks of mine!

One more thing on the bench to gnash your teeth over. I'll stick with primers, OAL, rest on the bench, ambient temp -- stuff like that.

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Originally posted by Geedubya:
They may work, but they sure are ugly!
GWB

and add unnecessary weight, cost, and longer barrels and did any one say....they are ugly?

I had one on a Browning 300 Win Mag when they first came out. I had a middle of the road load with 165 Sierra boat tails. The BOSS did allow me to tune it in when in Tucson. I took the gun to WY for an antelope hunt and rechecked the rifle there and the accuracy magically disappeared. I was shooting groups just under an inch in AZ and about 2.5" in WY. Not sure why that happened.

Hey Vapo,
what do I know. I'm still shooting lever, bolt and single shot rifles. Nary an AR.
GWB

The BOSS on my buddy's 300 Wby Mag sure takes the bite out of its recoil shooting at the bench.

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Originally posted by J.D.Randell:
One more thing on the bench to gnash your teeth over. I'll stick with primers, OAL, rest on the bench, ambient temp -- stuff like that.

You have it exactly backwards. The best thing about the BOSS is that you can just load to a max velocity load then tune the BOSS to get the accuracy you desire. It eliminates the need to fret over .1 grain charge variances, seating depth, primers, etc.

Oh! It's magic! But it's still ugly.

Well that was very informative!!!!! I wish I had joined this forum years ago!!!! I'd probably be 5 times smarter than I am now!!!! Thanks for the info guys!!!

One more question... How many posts does a guy have to make, or how long does he have to be a member before that damn "New Memeber" red flag hanging below my name changes to "one of us"????
I know you guys see that and you automatically think "well here is another dumb A$$ new guy that doesn't know anything about anything" and he's gonna ask the same dumb questions all the other new guys ask. AM I RIGHT?????????????

Not here,
Every one has to start somewhere. Post what interests you, what you are passionate about. Tell some hunting stories or experiences. Be respectful,pay your dues. How you are treated will be determined by you and your peers here. If you are an experienced rifle looney/hunter, your posts will reflect that. If not, they will reflect that too. Don't be a fake. Be yourself.
Time tells all tales. Next thing you know you'll have a bunch of posts under your belt.
Enjoy.

Best
GWB

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Originally posted by Cary Howard:
I know you guys see that and you automatically think "well here is another dumb A$$ new guy that doesn't know anything about anything" and he's gonna ask the same dumb questions all the other new guys ask. AM I RIGHT?????????????

No. In fact, I used to read these forums for a long time before I signed on as a member. What has puzzled me to no end is when current members continue to bring up the number of posts a member has and automatically equates that to their intelligence or knowledge level. That's like saying the new guy who just joined your golf club must suck because he just joined and has no time-based games. Then you go meet him and he says, "hi, I'm Tiger Woods." Turns out the new guy may know a helluva lot more than a long term forum member.

Most members don't care how many posts you have - unless you are selling something in the classifieds!
I think you become "one of us" at 25 or 50 posts. Not that long.
Most of the people with lots of posts in a short period of time don't actually know that much about hunting / shooting. They apparently spend all of their time on the computer!

Those that fret over post counts are simply showing their pettiness and arrogance. As said earlier, post when it interests you, and share your expereinces. What you say will ultimately tell the most about you. I can think of one current poster with a very high post count that rarely, if ever posts anything of value to these forums. Not always the case, for sure, as their is a wealth of knowledge on AR. Sifting through the shit does take some effort, however.

Bill

I actually erase a lot of mine after awhile. Everybody complains about what I write so I just erase them so nobody has to read them anymore.

Don't worry about how many you have.

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Originally posted by Doc:
Turns out the new guy may know a helluva lot more than a long term forum member.

+1 And some have already posted in this thread.

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Originally posted by Cary Howard:
One more question... How many posts does a guy have to make, or how long does he have to be a member before that damn "New Memeber" red flag hanging below my name changes to "one of us"????
I know you guys see that and you automatically think "well here is another dumb A$$ new guy that doesn't know anything about anything" and he's gonna ask the same dumb questions all the other new guys ask. AM I RIGHT?????????????

Probie

Just kidding. Ramrod explained how the boss system works pretty well.

Terry

Hey Cary,

Post count does not matter. Don't worry about it.

Here is the hype from Browning and a pic for you. I personally see them as gimmicky and unnecessary, not to mention they are LOUD. I know they have a newer model that addressed the noise, but I am still not a fan.

"What is the BOSS?
Browning's Ballistic Optimizing Shooting System (BOSS) is a patented breakthrough in rifle accuracy. When any rifle is fired, the barrel goes through a series of vibrations as the bullet leaves the muzzle. The variations of these vibrations greatly affect the accuracy of the rifle. Controlling these vibrations will greatly control the accuracy of the rifle. Browning's BOSS allows you to control the vibrations of your barrel so you can shoot groups you didn't think possible.
How the BOSS works.
The BOSS simply tunes the vibrations of your barrel. This allows the bullet to leave the barrel the split second it is stationary. Your BOSS manual has a list of settings for each caliber and bullet weight. Adjusting your BOSS to these "Sweet Spot" settings allows you to find the instant your barrel is stationary. The result is accuracy never achieved before by an out-of-the-box rifle.

Reduced Recoil

This type of accuracy has only been available for benchrest reloaders who spend hours developing loads that leave the barrel between vibrations, or custom gun makers who develop barrels for specific loads.

But the BOSS gives you much more than just accuracy. Depending on the caliber, the Browning BOSS system can reduce recoil by a third. This is something you will really feel.

Less recoil means quicker follow-up shots and more comfort in the field and on the range."

Please understand that I am a long-time admirer of All Things Browning.

The BOSS system does, in fact, inprove accuracy if correctly used. It flat-out works. I do not use calibers in which recoil is an important factor,so I can make no useful comment about that.

Problem: Most modern rifles in the .243 through 30-.06 range are plenty accurate enough for any reasonable sort of hunting.

Nice problem to have, yes?