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Who's you favorite manufacturer?
22 December 2007, 19:23
12FVSS260Who's you favorite manufacturer?
My answer to the question as asked would be savage, excellent out of the box accuracy and plenty of aftermarket barrels, triggers, and stocks to custom build.
Dave
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22 December 2007, 20:26
jro45Most of my good rifles are Remington But Sako and CZ are also of good Quality and are very
accurate also.
30 December 2007, 18:01
nodlenorI've got two Howas that I like very much and the price was right too.
30 December 2007, 18:23
Mort CanardFor the top six my choice would be;
1. Sako
2. Tikka
3. Weatherby
4. CZ
5. Savage
6. Browning
I don't have much knowledge of or experience with Kimber, Howa, Steyr, Manlicher, Blazer, Sauer.
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31 December 2007, 02:21
JBDGot to be either a 1st,2nd,or 3rd generation Model 70 Classic Super Grade for me. The collectors can have the pre '64s. I own only two Classic Super Grades now (30-06 and .338) and regret every one I ever sold or traded.
31 December 2007, 02:56
oldunEl cheapo it's Tikka with their T3, bloody marvelous for the price.
A little more expensive, Kimber Montana. And to be honest they are not much if any better than the Tikka.
Then Blaser K95.
31 December 2007, 03:10
dopeydaveI like the bang for the buck and great accuracy I get with the CZ's
31 December 2007, 03:12
MikeyBSako and Tikka in my experience. Outstanding shooters.
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31 December 2007, 04:05
MileHighShooterKind of a hard question to tackle, really. I mean, what other factors besides just plain out accuracy?
I've owned/shot a few Howa's, Remingtons, Winchester, Brownings, various mausers, Savage...they all have their merrits. Frankly, Savage rifles impress me for the price, they're real shooters more often then not. I've never heard anyone complain about poor accuracy with an A-bolt, and thats me included lol. The Rem's I had, could have been better, but they sure make a GREAT starting point for a rifle. Same with a Mauser, but that depends on who its made by. Again, one of the best starting points for a custom build.
I think with pretty much any factory rifle currently made, they SHOULD all be very accurate. With value brands like Savage, Tikka, Howa and some others really stepping up the accuracy bar, there is NO reason to NOT make one hell of a shooter off the shelf as is.
If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter!
31 December 2007, 17:01
br6ppc1For customization, I guess the top one would be a Rem. M700. There's so many aftermarket items. My pick for a factory rifle used to be a Browning A-bolt. I'm a little PO'd at Browning for discontinuing the A-bolt line. I talked to a local gun shop last Friday. The owner said a Browning rep came by with a new X-bolt to show him. THe gunshop owner was very dissatiafied with the X-bolt. He didn't think the X-bolt would sell as well as the A-bolt. Time will tell I guess. Some of the same things being said about the X-bolt were said about the A-bolt when it was new.
31 December 2007, 17:15
Jeff SullivanIn my experience, I would have to say Blaser R-93 and Sauer 202. I have owned Blasers in several calibers, and all have shot at least MOA out of the box. My Sauer 202 experiences have been the same except I have only owned and shot 2 guns to base it on.
Truth be told, of all the Ruger, Remingtons, and Thompson Encores that I have owned, I haven't had a single gun that wasn't at least "acceptable" out of the box.
02 January 2008, 21:28
jro45I'd Have to say Remington & CZ. Both of these rifles give me excellant accuracy.And another one is SAKO.
02 January 2008, 22:19
CZ 550For pure out of the box performance its pretty damn tough to beat Savage these days. Howa is also doing some pretty impressive stuff both for themselves and for Weatherby's Vanguard line of rifles.
When you need it and don't have it you'll be singing a different tune.
02 January 2008, 22:37
dgr416My favorite rifles are all Ruger model 77s .I have 338 win mags,264 win mags and a 243 in them.They never fail me and are always accurate.I have not found that a single 338 win mag shot greater than 1" at 100 yards.Most of the ones I own will shoot under an inch at 100 yards.I have never had a failure to feed either.
I have had winchester model 70 with crf fail to feed and I have had a problem with every model 700 Remington I owned.I had to replace floorplates that wouldnt stay closed or open.I had to replace ever spring and follower in all the model 70s and model 700 I had.I can always count on my Ruger model 77 that have never failed me.I have used them 30 years through thousands of rounds of ammo.I have tried others but they only failed.I also like Weatherby except the cheap vanguards I had problems with.
03 January 2008, 00:51
505EDBlaser for out of the box preformance!
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04 January 2008, 06:15
Rick Behlingout of the box-Remington M 700
04 January 2008, 06:57
tom`quote:
Originally posted by GAHUNTER:
For both out-of-the-box performance and as a starting point for customizing.
Evraz Oregon Steel Mills and one of the better wood purveyors is a good starting point for a custom rifle.
Out of the box and custom are apples and oranges unless changing a stock or chambering or swapping triggers is "custom" to you.
If it involves starting with an action, I like some breeds of Mausers and some Rems and CZs. If that's what you aim to do the best bet is to just buy an action you like and build from there. No need to buy a whole rifle unless you're getting a good deal on it.
04 January 2008, 07:23
Rodney H.{500Jeffery}Out of the box I like the CZ line-up with their hammer forged barrels and recievers. I've also had good results with the Vanguard series from Weatherby, Winchester model 70, and Remington model 700 BDL--- not ADL cast models. R.
05 January 2008, 00:48
Kamiah KidI like most all of 'em...but the favorite is Remington.
05 January 2008, 19:00
Bob in TXThis has been an interesting thread. I think Dave Petzal summed it up perfectly for me yesterday. I know we have all lamented about the decreasing quality and quality control at most of the firearms manufacturers ove the past ten years, giving folks like CZ a chance to take a big bite out the market.
The bottom line, buying a new firearm is pretty much a crapshoot today.
Bob
Here is Dave's blurb:
January 04, 2008
The Guns I Test Aren’t Special
One of the things of which I am frequently accused (in addition to uttering false notes, and mopery with intent to loiter) is testing specially selected rifles that are not representative of what you, the unwashed and lesser-privileged, are forced to buy. Nonsense say I, and as proof, here are some of the things that have been wrong with guns that were sent to me in recent months.
*A .308. Chunk of finish knocked out of stock; trigger that was creepier than Dick Cheney; bluing salts oozing out of the barrel threads.
*A .22/250. Chunk of paint knocked off the stock (is this a new look? Am I missing something?); 7-pound trigger pull. On a varmint rifle. 7 pounds. Gap around the firing pin that craters primers. Bolt face scrapes brass off cases.
*A .375 H&H that was made for me and for which I paid big buck$. Ejector did not eject. Trigger needed work. Barrel band was not secured in place and went flying up the barrel after 100 rounds.
I could go on, but I'm depressed enough already. This is why, when people ask me whether to buy Brand X or Brand Y, I say who knows? You may get a great rifle or you may get a dog. It's all a crapshoot.
David Petzal
05 January 2008, 19:27
DGR ShooterRuger and CZ
05 January 2008, 20:01
505ED
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05 January 2008, 20:08
raybassRemington first, they seem to shoot well, fit for me is great and I like the way they look. Ruger would be second, but the rifle that I liked most for fit and balance was a weatherby fibermark stainless that I never could get to shoot under two inches(I didn't handload then).
The weatherby was in a standard caliber btw (small action)
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05 January 2008, 20:44
surestrikequote:
Originally posted by Bob in TX:
This has been an interesting thread. I think Dave Petzal summed it up perfectly for me yesterday. I know we have all lamented about the decreasing quality and quality control at most of the firearms manufacturers ove the past ten years, giving folks like CZ a chance to take a big bite out the market.
The bottom line, buying a new firearm is pretty much a crapshoot today.
Bob
Here is Dave's blurb:
January 04, 2008
The Guns I Test Aren’t Special
One of the things of which I am frequently accused (in addition to uttering false notes, and mopery with intent to loiter) is testing specially selected rifles that are not representative of what you, the unwashed and lesser-privileged, are forced to buy. Nonsense say I, and as proof, here are some of the things that have been wrong with guns that were sent to me in recent months.
*A .308. Chunk of finish knocked out of stock; trigger that was creepier than Dick Cheney; bluing salts oozing out of the barrel threads.
*A .22/250. Chunk of paint knocked off the stock (is this a new look? Am I missing something?); 7-pound trigger pull. On a varmint rifle. 7 pounds. Gap around the firing pin that craters primers. Bolt face scrapes brass off cases.
*A .375 H&H that was made for me and for which I paid big buck$. Ejector did not eject. Trigger needed work. Barrel band was not secured in place and went flying up the barrel after 100 rounds.
I could go on, but I'm depressed enough already. This is why, when people ask me whether to buy Brand X or Brand Y, I say who knows? You may get a great rifle or you may get a dog. It's all a crapshoot.
David Petzal
Bob,
You know as I was reading his thread I was thinking the same darn thing. There are no factory rifles that with 100% certainty I can say is my favorite or that I'd trust to be a perfect rifle every time.
I've had or seen trouble with just about every brand of factory rifle out there.
I think the last of the truly great factory rifles were Belgium FN's, pre-war British rifles and VERY pre-64 Winchesters.
05 January 2008, 22:21
Gila JorgeFavorite is Ruger Hawkeye...what a difference over the old Mark IIs...next would be CZ...followed by Winchester 70 Classics...presnetly have dumped most of everything else and concentrating on Hawkeyes...Ruger finally has it right...
now just adjust the trigger and put a decent pad on it and it should be good to go....
06 January 2008, 03:32
BeefaAnschutz and Sako for European
Remington and Ruger for my American picks
Beefa270: Yes I really love my 270win
12 January 2008, 02:59
Remi308I think my tag speaks for itself. Box stock as a tool, my pick is Remington 700, hands down. Accurate, durable, reliable and consistant adjustable trigger. I love 'em.
I think I'm finding room in my safe for a Kimber though in the future. But that would be more of an investment than a tool.
12 January 2008, 03:34
KenscoI like a rifle that catches my eye and is reasonably priced.
1. Browning
I like a rifle that is fit for purpose, catches my eye, and is reasonably priced.
1. Sako
I like a rifle that is fit for purpose, catches my eye, is reasonably priced, and I wouldn't have to think twice about buying.
1. Remington
12 January 2008, 18:36
FainaIt's difficolt to say who's the best manufactur. Probably this are the one that made the major quantity of rifle without defects.
In this case my choise will be:
Kongsberg
Remington
Sako
Weatherby
CZ
The first four have great accuracy, very good actions and in most case also good finishing. CZ is the most strong hunting gun and have good accuracy, finishing is not her best point. Probably the most used by profetional hunters.
I see or shot a lot of Mauser, Mallicher and Winchester that shot bad.
Faina
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13 January 2008, 04:41
dmazurWell, I've purchased Rugers and had to send them out to be rebarreled. I have a Winchester 1895 (Japanese) which has good workmanship, but that's offset by the Winchester 9410 that had a tang safety that had to be filed to work correctly with the rebounding hammer. So far the only purchase that's been trouble-free has been a MRC 1999 barreled action which was stocked by Accurate Innovations. MRC started rough, I've heard, but they seem to be turning out some quality stuff now.
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13 January 2008, 05:00
kayakerI don't own one and probably won't for a while ($$$) but I am very keen on the Sauer 202
13 January 2008, 06:34
DWrightHolland & Holland and Westley Richards
13 January 2008, 12:11
mustbhuntnWinchester model 70's. Some are CRF and some are push feed but they all shoot well.
I am so happy they are coming back into production I almost wet my pants.
13 January 2008, 12:29
Ol Bull1- Mauser
2- CZ
3- Winchester CRF
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19 January 2008, 10:21
Indlovu1.Steyr
2.mauser
3. everyone else; excluding CZ (rough acton) Ruger (horrible trigger, clunky)
19 January 2008, 10:48
jetdrvr[QUOTE]Originally posted by DWright:
Holland & Holland and Westley Richards
Those are ANYTHING but box rifles. They'd be among my favorites also if I had a couple mil in the bank.
19 January 2008, 11:03
RMillerwinchester mod 70
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