The Accurate Reloading Forums
New 308 Winchester

This topic can be found at:
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3221043/m/4591088451

01 May 2011, 03:33
gi
New 308 Winchester
thinking about replacing ny old Sako w/ mannlicher stock, rifle about 30 years old and very good condition.
Was thinking about either winchester extreme weather rifle of the thompson icon.

Any experience with these rifles and opinons please
01 May 2011, 03:58
metric
Why not a rifle known for it's accuracy?

A new Sako, Blaser R93, Tikka T3, Sauer 202 etc..

M
01 May 2011, 04:25
Jpat
The .30TC is the best in the Icon. To bad they closed the N.H. plant and moved it all to Mass.Buy it, close it. They were making barrels for the AR15 there also, not to mention contenders and muzzle loaders. Only 200++ people in a small N.H. town unemployed!
01 May 2011, 07:41
Rub Line
quote:
Originally posted by gi:
thinking about replacing ny old Sako w/ mannlicher stock, rifle about 30 years old and very good condition.

Any experience with these rifles and opinons please


Pretty tough to beat what you currently own. Any new rifle would be a step down, MHO.


-----------------------------------------------------


Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. Proverbs 26-4


National Rifle Association Life Member

01 May 2011, 08:23
Alberta Canuck
quote:
Originally posted by Rub Line:
quote:
Originally posted by gi:
thinking about replacing ny old Sako w/ mannlicher stock, rifle about 30 years old and very good condition.

Any experience with these rifles and opinons please


Pretty tough to beat what you currently own. Any new rifle would be a step down, MHO.



+1
01 May 2011, 16:49
ron williams
Why replace it? Just make an addition. There is no law against owning two.


There are no fleas on the 9.3s

http://www.blaserbuds.com/forum/
01 May 2011, 17:27
BISCUT
Always room for another...but why not rebarrel???
01 May 2011, 19:26
Rusty
Perhaps one of these?


Mauser M 03 Extreme


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
02 May 2011, 05:20
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by Rub Line:
quote:
Originally posted by gi:
thinking about replacing ny old Sako w/ mannlicher stock, rifle about 30 years old and very good condition.

Any experience with these rifles and opinons please


Pretty tough to beat what you currently own. Any new rifle would be a step down, MHO.
tu2


///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill
02 May 2011, 05:32
carpetman1
If getting a bolt action, why not get the 30-06? The beauty of the .308 is the shortness is better adapted to actions other than bolt than what the 30-06 is. If you are giving that up go 30-06. The .308 is a fine round and this is not knocking it. I gave my grandson a Win 88 in .308 and it is serving him well.
02 May 2011, 16:13
LBGuy
i have some buds who own the rifles you mention. either will do what you expect. the icon my buds has is his most accurate rifle, and it did shoot a couple moa/sub-moa groups when we were sighting it in before last deer season. his is wood/blue. you can read all day about the ew winchester. getting a good reputation for accuracy and i have heard of very few problems with the new fn version. if i were you, i visit a shop which had both. handle a few, throw em' up to your shoulder a few times, and see how they feel. you'll know which is better for you after that. good luck with your decision.
02 May 2011, 18:09
LJS
Take a look at a Sako 85 Bavarian in 308. Very nice rifle!
04 May 2011, 04:57
gi
Always had good luck with Sakos, except a 75. that one was my bad experience, previously owned 5 or 6 ant it was the only bad one I had.
08 May 2011, 10:56
Austin Hunter
I have several .308 win. (2 Tikkas, a Mohawk, and a G3) My go to gun here in Texas is a Tikka T3 stainless synthetic. It's my magic shooting stick - you point it, stuff dies. The "one length action" and plastic trigger guard on the Tikkas keep it apart from the more expensive rifles, but a dime a can cover three shots on the target. Wanting something nice, get a Sako 85 in it.


"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan

"Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians."

Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness.
08 May 2011, 20:07
scottfromdallas
quote:
Originally posted by LJS:
Take a look at a Sako 85 Bavarian in 308. Very nice rifle!


Sounds like he is looking for bad weather synthetic. I would love to have a Bavarian. I just can't get over the price shocker



09 May 2011, 06:30
tc98
I like the Sako's a lot, but I also really like the new Extreme Weather Mod. 70. I've got one in .308 that shoots lights out with Nosler factor ammo. Also have a 7mm-08 that is getting some custom work done right now. The triggers are pretty good once you get them set right, and polished real good. Probably just shy of 2.5 lbs, and good and crisp.

I agree, that an addition makes more sense than a replacement.

Good luck. tu2
09 May 2011, 17:00
scottfromdallas
quote:
Originally posted by Austin Hunter:
I have several .308 win. (2 Tikkas, a Mohawk, and a G3) My go to gun here in Texas is a Tikka T3 stainless synthetic. It's my magic shooting stick - you point it, stuff dies. The "one length action" and plastic trigger guard on the Tikkas keep it apart from the more expensive rifles, but a dime a can cover three shots on the target. Wanting something nice, get a Sako 85 in it.

Tikka's are good shooters, no doubt but they are expensive (around $600) for how they are made and what they are. Just my opinion.



09 May 2011, 17:39
McFox
quote:
Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
Tikka's are good shooters, no doubt but they are expensive (around $600) for how they are made and what they are. Just my opinion.


You shouldn't judge gun prices by the cheapo stuff being sold in the US.
09 May 2011, 18:02
BISCUT
quote:
Originally posted by McFox:
quote:
Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
Tikka's are good shooters, no doubt but they are expensive (around $600) for how they are made and what they are. Just my opinion.


You shouldn't judge gun prices by the cheapo stuff being sold in the US.



I have many rifles, some of em cheap, some pretty pricey. I have a few of those "cheapo" Savage rifles that I would put up against ANY production rifle. They might be ugly, but many of them can flat out shoot!
09 May 2011, 18:24
McFox
I wasn't referring to standard brand rifles but to the downrage offerings which are increasingly brought to the market.

Take your Savage. That's a fine rifle. But now Savage is also marketing a bargain rifle in addition to their 110/112 action. This new model has undergone some major cost cutting measures, which indeed do make it "more affordable" but by no means a better gun.
09 May 2011, 18:57
500N
Tikka's are becoming better guns than Remington's looking at how
may problems Rems have over here. Variations, rust on the Mag
spring and Floorplates on BRAND NEW, out of the box guns.

Seems to be less variation in Tikka's, they all seem to shoot.
Not so the Remmy's from what I hear.

.
10 May 2011, 09:01
Jay Gorski
quote:
Originally posted by gi:
thinking about replacing ny old Sako w/ mannlicher stock, rifle about 30 years old and very good condition.
Was thinking about either winchester extreme weather rifle of the thompson icon.

Any experience with these rifles and opinons please

If I had to choose between the two id opt for the new Winchester, theyre very nice.
10 May 2011, 17:17
scottfromdallas
quote:
Originally posted by BISCUT:
quote:
Originally posted by McFox:
quote:
Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
Tikka's are good shooters, no doubt but they are expensive (around $600) for how they are made and what they are. Just my opinion.


You shouldn't judge gun prices by the cheapo stuff being sold in the US.



I have many rifles, some of em cheap, some pretty pricey. I have a few of those "cheapo" Savage rifles that I would put up against ANY production rifle. They might be ugly, but many of them can flat out shoot!


Agreed, that was my point. I have a $300 Marlin x7 in 308 that will shoot MOA. I't manufactured to be cheap to produce just like the Tikka. The difference is they sell it for a bargain.



11 May 2011, 06:48
djpaintles
quote:
Originally posted by metric:
Why not a rifle known for it's accuracy?

A new Sako, Blaser R93, Tikka T3, Sauer 202 etc..

M



Good advice. From Personal experience I can highly recommend the newer Sako's or a Blaser R93. If you are thinking about a Synthetic Stainless rifle the Sako Finnlites are superb. I've also heard very good things about the Sako A7's if you want to spend a bit less but I have not had one of those myself yet. Both of my Finnlites have shot a good number of 3/4" or better 3 shot groups at 200yds - not too bad for lightweight rifles shooting premium hunting bullets.

I also haven't tried the new SC Winchesters yet they might be excellent rifles I just haven't tried them yet. I know the newer Sako's are excellent rifles cuz I have several of them..........................DJ


....Remember that this is all supposed to be for fun!..................
12 May 2011, 05:58
Austin Hunter
A7s are excellent. My friend has a 300 WSM that shoots a dime as well. When he first got it, he and his friend were trying to sight it in at our place. They were all over the target. They asked me to shoot one shot to see if it hit where I aimed. I told them I needed to shoot three shots to determine how it grouped. I shot a dime sized group. I told them bad things about themselves after that and said the rifle was superb, but kicked like a mother with it's hard rubber recoil pad - it comes to a small point in your shoulder on a bench - not the whole pad.


"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan

"Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians."

Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness.
16 May 2011, 07:07
Rothke
I shopped and shopped . . . 30-06 Spfd. in a Win. Mod. 70 Classic Stainless. Leupold 3 x 9 40mm duplex VXII

I have a .308 Win. -- Rem. 700 PSS. It's nice, but the Win. Mod. 70 is practical for field carry, whereas the PSS is more for the bench.