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18 July 2015, 04:46
Heym 450/400
Blaser R8...Mauser M03...Sauer 404
Ok help me out here. Between the Blaser R8, Mauser M03, or the Sauer 404..which would you pick and why. I really want to set myself up with one of these rifle "systems" to add calibers and play around with different configurations as I go on various hunts. For whatever reason they just make sense to me and seem like a perfect solution for travel.
18 July 2015, 07:00
butchloc
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18 July 2015, 07:03
butchloc
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18 July 2015, 07:04
Biebs
Heym don't pay attention to Butchgloc, or Mr Mossberg as he's known here :-) I use the Blaser system on all my travel hunts. The scope mounts to the barrel on the R8, so once sighted in, the scoped barrels are ready to go when needed for a particular hunt. I also like the dealer network for Blaser, although some do carry Mauser and Sauer as well. I'm not sure of the price on the new 404, or when they'll be available.
18 July 2015, 07:05
Heym 450/400
lol...They grew on me over time. I can't help it. sofa
18 July 2015, 07:09
Heym 450/400
Whats a good dealer to use? Ive been looking on Euro optic a little bit to try and figure out what I want but I want to make sure Im dealing with a decent company
18 July 2015, 08:19
505ED
I have owned the M03 and Blaser R93 and R8...the blaser is the most widely distributed and easiest to get components... R8 is a great system.

Ed


DRSS Member
18 July 2015, 11:40
HendrikNZ
I'm a big fan of the M03 as its still a traditional bolt action with all same benefits of the 404 & the R8.
18 July 2015, 16:22
nickh
Blaser r8 is a no brainer and Alex at Europticis great to deal with

Cheers

Nick
18 July 2015, 21:31
Heym 450/400
Looks like the R8 is maybe the way to go...So, semi weight or standard? Should I get the semi weight and buy standard barrels in the smaller calibers?
18 July 2015, 22:36
Biebs
Depends on the intended use. Blaser stocks come with either Standard barrel channels or Safari. The Safari channel handles the heavier-diameter Safari, Match and Semi-Wt barrels. Many guys that are into Blasers always buy Safari channel stocks, so you can use any barrel. When a Regular contour barrel is used in a Safari stock, it just looks like it's free-floated....no big deal.

Also, for the largest calibers, like 458 Lott and 500 Jeffery, Blaser makes both wood and synthetic rifles that have solid steel receivers and built-in Kick-Stops. The extra weight makes these calibers much easier to shoot.

I have an Attache' high grade wood rifle, a safari Pro (steel receiver and Kick-Stop? in Sananna Brown, and a regular Pro also in Savanna. If I use a 300 WM or lesser caliber, I use the regular Pro, as it's much lighter.
18 July 2015, 23:12
Heym 450/400
Well...just got off the phone with Euro optic. Ive decided to fly out there and get set up on site. I want to be able to pick out a nice piece of wood and make sure I get exactly what I want.

Plus Ill get way too excited and buy twice as much as I should Cool
18 July 2015, 23:56
Biebs
Good deal....they're great folks. I just bought a new Beretta A400 Explor from them yesterday.
20 July 2015, 13:33
Rusty
I own a Mauser M 03 with 6 barrels. Soon to be 7 barrels. It is the most accurate versatile rifle I have ever owned. It is a "mans" rifles in size and fit! You don't have to send off to a gunsmith to tweak it to get it to shoot. It is accurate and reliable right out of the box!

Having said that I hope to look at a Sauer 404 this fall and will probably buy one.

I'd call Tip Burns at Blaser USA in San Antonio, Texas. He is familiar with all of these rifles!


Rusty
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Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
20 July 2015, 18:29
Gerac
Heym,
I own a Blaser R8 with two barrels and thinking about buying more. All my barrels are semi which is and advantage if you use the weapon for training or competition. Personally I find the balance of the semi barrels brilliant, so that is the only reasons why I have them. My 9.3x62 has a short semi barrel which is very nice for driven hunts.

The Blaser mount is pretty expensive but very reliable.

So I would say you can't go wrong with a Blaser. However Mauser and Sauer are for sure good rifles, too.
20 July 2015, 20:32
Austin Hunter
I have a Mauser M03. I like the traditional bolt setup. I got a great deal on a wood stocked one with a 308 and 243 barrel, but traded for a 375 H&H extreme and bought a Weatherby 300 barrel as well. I like the "look" of the M03 synthetic stock better than the wood stock.

I've never used an R8 before, but it does look like a good system. If I was starting from scratch and wanting a modular rifle I might go the R8 route just because it's different and not a bolt action like everything else I own. They also tend to be more compact rifles due to the nature of the action, but you get the benefit for a long barrel and long LOP.


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21 July 2015, 03:43
metric
The Mauser M03 is a rather bulky, large rifle..
If you're a big guy, thats fine.
The 404 is the way to go if you want a bolt action, but the R8 is the Champ imo.

M
21 July 2015, 04:04
Heym 450/400
I really was leaning toward the 404, but the R8 seems to be more readily available and offers more calibers and configurations. It will take me a few weeks before I get out to euro optic and have a chance to look over everything. Maybe I'll end up with the R8 and the 404... And when I get home I'll be divorced Big Grin
21 July 2015, 15:02
Rusty
Heym 450/400

The 404 has a few refinements that I like over the M 03. Bolt head release, completely adjustable trigger and the take down tool is with the rifle. Hopefully Tip Burns and I will get together and I can shoot one soon.

Too bad we don't live closer to each other you are welcome to come shoot my M 03. Take your choice, of calibers.
404 Jeffery
375 H&H
308 Suppressed- 2 barrels, one threaded.
6.5X 55
22-250
Coming soon 257 Roberts


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
03 August 2015, 06:02
Rusty
From The FWIW Department-
I went to the Texas Trophy Hunter's Extravaganza in Houston today. I met up with Tip Burns of Blaser and got to handle the new 404 Sauer.

I found it to be a remarkable rifle. The breakdown and adjustment tool is the the forearm sling stud. It is always with the rifle! There are 4 trigger setting that you can make. You can completely reposition the trigger and it's angle to the fit your finger!
A push of a button changes the magazine from a drop box to a top feed.
The bolt release and bolt head change switch are easier to operate than the Mauser M 03. The bolt heads of the 404 have twin ejectors and a claw that grips the case.
Barrels are changed with three screws and a lever.
The scope base release levers are a great improvement over the Mauser M 03.

The over all feel is smaller than the M 03. It is comfortable. Price in my opinion is affordable.
My views have changed over the years. I used to think custom was the best way to go. Now, at my age, I'd rather have a reliable, accurate "system" rifle that I can add to at my leisure, and be out shooting instead of waiting for years on a rifle that might have to be "tweaked" to be accurate. But that's just me.

And yes! I intend to buy one!


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
03 August 2015, 06:14
pagosawingnut
Always been a Remington fan. Got into the Blaser R8 and it's longer length of pull and now am up to 4 stocks and 8 barrels. Dependable, fast, easy to use, safe and accurate.
03 August 2015, 07:16
Beretta682E
Left handed 404 by any chance ?

Mike
03 August 2015, 07:17
rodell
quote:
Originally posted by pagosawingnut:
Always been a Remington fan. Got into the Blaser R8 and it's longer length of pull and now am up to 4 stocks and 8 barrels. Dependable, fast, easy to use, safe and accurate.


Look for a sale on Remington's soon!

I have slowly been replacing all of my hunting rifles with the Blaser system and I've not been disappointed.
03 August 2015, 09:39
Rusty
Left handed models available!


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
03 August 2015, 11:12
Beretta682E
quote:
Originally posted by Rusty:
Left handed models available!


This will most likely be my first platform gun. M03 or 404 - I mock Biebs too much to buy a Blaser r8.

Mike
03 August 2015, 13:46
Gerry
quote:
Left handed 404 by any chance ?

Mike,

I asked about a left hand version at the show in Dortmund when the Sauer rep gave me the 404 introduction.

He said a left hand version will be made for sure but it will probably take 3+ years.


Cheers,

Number 10
03 August 2015, 18:42
Cliff Lyle
quote:
Originally posted by Rusty:
Heym 450/400

The 404 has a few refinements that I like over the M 03. Bolt head release, completely adjustable trigger and the take down tool is with the rifle. Hopefully Tip Burns and I will get together and I can shoot one soon.

Too bad we don't live closer to each other you are welcome to come shoot my M 03. Take your choice, of calibers.
404 Jeffery
375 H&H
308 Suppressed- 2 barrels, one threaded.
6.5X 55
22-250
Coming soon 257 Roberts


I have an M03 on the way with 2 barrels. I'm really interested in the 257 Roberts barrel you talk about. Is it a custom made barrel?
03 August 2015, 18:46
Cliff Lyle
quote:
Originally posted by Beretta682E:
Left handed 404 by any chance ?

Mike


LH 404 could arrive in the US as early as this fall.
I was in Isny, Germany in May and spent some time with the Sauer folks. In my estimation, the 404 is the best of all 3 brands, Blaser, Mauser and Sauer.
I own 2 R8 Blasers, a Sauer 202 and have a M03 Mauser on the way. I'm a Prostaffer for Blaser and spend a lot of time with their rifles and shotguns. It's what I hunt with and what I shoot.
I'll always have Blaser rifles but am really excited about getting a Sauer 404. I'll get the LH M03 this month.
03 August 2015, 19:13
Rusty
Cliff,
Yes it is!


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
04 August 2015, 04:33
Cliff Lyle
quote:
Originally posted by Rusty:
Cliff,
Yes it is!


Do you mind sharing the barrel maker's name in public or private?
04 August 2015, 04:52
Rusty
Sure thing Cliff.
M03 Barrels Thread by Crusher


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
04 August 2015, 18:19
Cliff Lyle
thanks Rusty. This is good.
What magazine do you plan to use?
04 August 2015, 18:48
Rusty
Cliff, to tell you the truth, I hadn't given it any thought! LOL! Probably the 6.5X55? What are your thoughts?


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
06 August 2015, 08:16
Cliff Lyle
That's a good place to begin. The 7x57 would be a good mag as well.
06 August 2015, 14:16
Nortman
On the M03.. with the lowest mounts (rings), whats the max objective size?

They seem quite high.. I would guess x56 scopes fits fine on the lowest?
13 August 2015, 05:56
Rusty
I have a Vortex 6X24 with a 50 objective mounted on low rings!


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”