Why is the 7x57,7mm Mauser also called the 275 rigby? Could somebody help me, just wantin to know why.

It is also called the .275 Rigby because, over 100 years ago, John Rigby & Co. chose to Anglicize the 7x57mm for commercial purposes - i.e., for the purpose of selling Mauser-actioned rifles in that caliber in Great Britain.

Just as in the USA the 6.35mm was called the .25 ACP or the 9mm Short the .380 ACP.

quote:

Originally posted by kennedy:
Why is the 7x57,7mm Mauser also called the 275 Rigby?

Groove diameter versus bore diameter.

Fck Rigby, Its always was,is and will be the 7x57 to me.
...im amazed the britts didnt also rename the M98 in their favor. ..

quote:

.im amazed the britts didnt also rename the M98 in their favor.

No need. We just captured all of them in 1918!

Yeh I know H&H,WR,Rigby,Purdey etc, outer shells British, heart soul & strong foundation M98 ...n' still going strong..

quote:

Originally posted by enfieldspares:

quote:

.im amazed the britts didnt also rename the M98 in their favor.

No need. We just captured all of them in 1918!

Touche'!

I think most of the British .275 rigby guns were loaded with the lighter 140gr bullets and a different rate of twist to the barrel than the original 7x57mm which was designed to have a 175gr bullet.

You will find that Rigby had three basic 275 rifles. One wieghted and sighted for the 173gn bullet. Two sighted for the High velocity 140gn one being a standard weight rifle, the other being a light weight rifle.While the English makers most of who marked their rifles as 275 or in some cases 276 they were all capable of chambering the factory 7x57 cartridges although the throating was sometimes different at least untill the chambering became standardised.
Vo Gruff

Correct Von Gruff.

quote:

A 404 and a 7x57. All a man needs anywhere, anytime. ever.

Very possible, but variety is the spice of life.

Same reason the 12.7x70mm Schuler is referred to as the .500 Jeffery.

/

If a 300H&H uses a 308"bullet and is called a 300H&H then why is a 375H&H not called a 366 H&H? I asked a saleman this at the H&H booth at the SCI show in Reno three years ago and he just turned around and walked away in his $1200 suit.

quote:

Originally posted by ALF:
As to designation Metric vs Imperial, I find it somewhat hypocritical coming from Americans that they would put down the Brits for insisting on Imperial proprietary designations for their catridges . . .

ALF, if your charge of hypocrisy was aimed at me, your aim is off. I intended no "put down" of Rigby and don't see how my post above could be interpreted as such.

I remarked that Rigby's decision to rename the cartridge was driven by commercial motives.

That can hardly be debated.

Still, how can it be a "put down" to state the fact that one engaged in commerce was driven to act by commercial motives?

Is there anything per se wrong with commercial motives? I surely don't think so.

Any businessman is entirely within his rights and should not be criticized for acting in a non-deceptive way to advance the profitability of his business.

That is precisely what Rigby did in this case.

The fact that he may have also succeeded in confusing some people over one hundred years later is beside the point.

quote:

...im amazed the britts didnt also rename the M98 in their favor

. . . because the Americans beat them to it by calling it the "Springfield".

quote:

Originally posted by Stonecreek:

quote:

...im amazed the britts didnt also rename the M98 in their favor

. . . because the Americans beat them to it by calling it the "Springfield".

The U.S. government paid handsome fees to Mauser for the rights - until World War I broke out, of course!

quote:

Originally posted by ALF:
As to designation Metric vs Imperial, I find it somewhat hypocritical coming from Americans that they would put down the Brits for insisting on Imperial proprietary designations for their catridges when in fact the Americans have been doing exactly the same and still do it !

europeans are no better, just look at the .22 Savage High-Power who was renamed to 5.6x52R

quote:

Originally posted by MickinColo:

quote:

A 404 and a 7x57. All a man needs anywhere, anytime. ever.

Very possible, but variety is the spice of life.

.338/06 would compliment those two fine cartridges nicely.

quote:

Originally posted by Trax:

quote:

Originally posted by MickinColo:

quote:

A 404 and a 7x57. All a man needs anywhere, anytime. ever.

Very possible, but variety is the spice of life.

.338/06 would compliment those two fine cartridges nicely.

Actually I think the 9.3x62 might fill that gap even better.

quote:

Originally posted by jawheeler:

quote:

Originally posted by Trax:

quote:

Originally posted by MickinColo:

quote:

A 404 and a 7x57. All a man needs anywhere, anytime. ever.

Very possible, but variety is the spice of life.

.338/06 would compliment those two fine cartridges nicely.

Actually I think the 9.3x62 might fill that gap even better.

Only if you can't get hold of a .318 Westly Richards...

Trax,Jawheeler,Wes.

Right guys., there will always be a place for a good medium.I lean toward the 9.3x62 for the same reason I have the 404 and the 7x57. They just plain work and have for over a hundred years. Having said that the 318 was one of the better English mediums along with the 333 Jeffery, and we all know how well the 33 cal works.

Von Gruff

Von Gruff I see you are a gentleman of class. The .333 Jeffrey would be an exceptional addition and completion of your armoury.