Where have my Nosler "35 Whelen"/225 gr ballistic tip bullets gone? They have become increasingly difficult to find.

The Whelen is a very good gun but not noted for it's long range shooting. Go Here for good bullets. I wouldn't worry about getting a high BC.

I asked the same question about two weeks ago. Nosler told me they have them catalogued; however I can't find them either. He also told me they are coming out with them in Accubond so that's why they are probably phasing them out.

My question is, why would anyone care about a Boat tail feature in a 35 Whelen? That feature only has an "POSITIVE" effect, on a very high speed bullet over very long range! The 35 Whelen is a hunting cartridge,and not overly speedy! In a hunting bullet, the BT feature is a draw back because that type of bullet is more likely the shed it's jacket on impact with an animal, than a square base bullet, or a Partition type, which are far more suited to the cartridges in the 35 Whelen class, especially on things like Elk, and Moose!

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Originally posted by MacD37:
My question is, why would anyone care about a Boat tail feature in a 35 Whelen? That feature only has an "POSITIVE" effect, on a very high speed bullet over very long range! The 35 Whelen is a hunting cartridge,and not overly speedy! In a hunting bullet, the BT feature is a draw back because that type of bullet is more likely the shed it's jacket on impact with an animal, than a square base bullet, or a Partition type, which are far more suited to the cartridges in the 35 Whelen class, especially on things like Elk, and Moose!

The Nosler Balistic tip makes the 35 Whelen a 300yd plus cartridge, it is no more likely to shed it's core than any conventional flatbase bullet!

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Originally posted by 45otto:
Where have my Nosler "35 Whelen"/225 gr ballistic tip bullets gone? They have become increasingly difficult to find.

It's my understanding that the 225 gr .358 caliber BT and the 250 gr 9.3mm caliber BT will be replaced with Accubonds.

See these threads on the Nosler forums:

35 & 9.3 BT

35 Caliber Accubonds

-Bob F.

correct!

It took me 3-4 years of trying the .338 BT before I'd believe it was a better bullet than the lighter calibers. Finnally once I trusted it to use on big game and found it to be a great bullet ( I'm not a long range shooter, I just like how it worked on game) I'd by then used up my stock of them and cannot get anymore. Have to try the Accubond and see, but I'd suspect it'll work even better but at a price increase.

I can certainly give at least one reason to try a boat tail in any cartridge. I have seen some rifles that seem to group better with boat tail bullets. And I might point out that a 225 grain bullet (I seem to remember that thats what the b-tip 35 weighs but I am not sure)
Moving at 2650 to 2700 FPS could be plenty flat shooting. And if you put it in a .358 norma or, a 358 STA it would really be of great value. ...tj3006

I like them for their accuracy. For my purposes I dont think an accubond is nessecary, the BT's get a bad rap but the bigger ones hold together pretty well. Guess I better try to find some (if theyre not all gone already.)

In My 35 Whelen, I shoot the 225 Grain Ballistic Tip @ 2700 fps. The powder of choice is 4064. Groups always run under an inch, (100 Yds) and they perform spectacularly on elk.

The last bullet I recovered from a cow elk, weighed 206 grains. Thats after it passed thru the left rear quarter, went all the way to the brisket, and tore up everything in its way.

Lets compare the above, to a Speer Hot Core 250 Grainer, @ 2600 fps. This one hit the elk about three ribs back, missed all bone, and blew up in the heart. Recovered weight, 56 grains. If retained weight is what we are going to judge a bullets performance upon, the BT won. Still a dead elk is a dead elk.

As to the boat tail, this argument has been going on for years, as to its relative merits, one thing cannot be denied however, they are easier to load, especially on high production equipment.


Jerry

The non-bonded bullet had more chance of losing its jacket. Boattail or not. But the jacket on the BT in calibers larger than .308 were much heavier. If they are going to make the accubond it will just perform even better than the older style. Probably it will be more expensive but the worn out old saw about how much does the hunt cost? And the bullets expended for that hunt? It is only going to hurt if you routinely shoot lots of those hunting loads in practice. Packy

I was completely unaware of Nosler doin what they are about the 225 Ballistic Tip. So after reading and commenting on this thread, I ran out and started checking the little local gun shops, I managed to find 2 boxes. Maybe thats the thing to do, thanks.

Jerry