have shot many deer with them in a .308 Win. and every one runs like hell. one even left no blood trail with a shot through the shoulder. Does anyone think that this bullet is too tough for medium sized deer under 200yds?

I have used this bullet on three whitetail bucks. Each one was a one shot kill from a 300 WSM. All three deer collapsed on the spot. You say one of your shots was " through the shoulder and never left a blood trail". Could you explain how you know the bullet went through the shoulder? Are you shooting in thick bush?

i eventually recovered the deer,about 150 yds from the field. all shots are in the open. what velocity are you getting with the 300WSM?

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Originally posted by model7LSS:
have shot many deer with them in a .308 Win. and every one runs like hell. one even left no blood trail with a shot through the shoulder. Does anyone think that this bullet is too tough for medium sized deer under 200yds?

I really have to laugh at Steve Hornady...this was the first bullet he bought out in "interbond" He could have bought out the 180 or larger bullet but NO...he had to use a whitetail bullet and for what?.....

The old interlocks are just as good (especially for the .308 and 30-06 velocities when it comes to deer hunting.

The better bullet helps when we're big game hunting.....like moose, elk etc and then withg the big bullets like 180 to 200 grains.

Spend a bit less on bullets and the performasnce will improve in this case.

Because of the centennial, I used the 30-06 this year and shot three bucks with 150 grain SSTs.

I was delighted with the performance on deer!

I like the spire points--great hunting accuracy and good down-range performance on game.

This is a pic of a recovered 150 grain plain hornady-- the one below the case. The one on top is 180 grainer.

Both shot from a 30-06.The 150 grainer with 32 grains of Reloader 7, very accurate but slow! Range was 150 yards. It hit the ribs cage behind the shoulder of a 170lb deer and did not go through the off side. It also did not mushroom. I don'd know if you can see but it is cork skrew shaped either from hitting bone or for the twisting of the the bullet into the target. This is the hornady 3032 150 grain bullet.

The bullet above (first one) is a mushroomed 180grain 3070 hornady. It was fired from an 06 with 54 grains of 4350. It hit a 160lb deer in the left rump, mushroomed, making a fist size hole in it and stopping under the skin in the tenderloin area. Range was 50-60 yards.

My guess is that the 150 grainer was going too slow for the range and the 180 to fast for the range.

By the way the 150 gr bullet did kill the deer. It hit vitals (lungs) and the deer was recoved 60 yards away from where it was hit...twenty minutes later... the blood trail was as wide as a house paint brush and foot long swats, after I found it.

So my guess is that the hornady interbond at 150 yards which did not go through was not moving fast enough for the range...but it is just a guess from my limited experience and what I have learned here on AR.