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14 January 2004, 06:56
turfman
9.3x57. questions
Hello everyone.

I have a chance to buy the above mentioned cal. in a sporterized mauser. I know you guys like the 9.3x62 and was wondering how the x57 fares. Also if it doesn't stack up; would it be easy to rechamber to a x62.

thanks
turfman.
14 January 2004, 07:06
<9.3x62>
The 9.3x57, as loaded by the factory, is a noticeable step down from the x62. Loading it up and the gap can be narrowed a bit. I think of the 9.3x57 as a first cousin of the 348 Win and the 358 Win.
14 January 2004, 07:07
bartsche
Quote:

Hello everyone.

"9.3x62 and was wondering how the x57 fares. Also if it doesn't stack up; "

It probably is a little light for Blue Whale. For everything else it's a winner. roger
14 January 2004, 07:23
VFR
TurfMan,
I see you are in NJ. Did you buy one of the Swedish Mausers imported by SARCO? Many of the 9.3x57's were built on the 94/96 small ring actions. Most smiths will advise not to do the conversion to 9.3x62 using this action, although I have heard that this action was tested to the same pressures as the 98. I am reloading 250gr Nosler Ballistic Tips with a starting load of 43gr of 3031. I will try 4895 next. If your rifle is a 98, go for the 62. If it's a small ring, leave it a 57. Whatever you use the 358 Win for, the 9.3x57 will do as good or maybe a touch better. Bob
14 January 2004, 08:03
turfman
thanks guys:

9.3x62: I have not seen any factory listings for it. Can 8mm be necked up to accomidate it; or is there a source for brass. Also do you think 2300-2400fps with a 250grn bullet is reachable. I have a whelen and don't really need the rifle, but i really don't need 90% of the toys I have either.

Bartsche: Yea tend to forget things like that, "often".

VFR: I just got off of the phone with the guy. Yes he picked it up from Sarco last year. The peice is real nice. Not a presentation peice; but the lines and fit of the stock have drawn me to it. He is selling it because he does not reload. So I guess it is a 94/96 small ring.


If it will kill out to 150yds( and I'm guessing it will ); I think I'll pick it up.
BTW the price is $250.

Thanks for the info.
turfman
14 January 2004, 08:12
<9.3x62>
I believe Norma makes 2 factory loads for it. Norma brass is available from midwaysusa.com. It's pricey, but 100 pieces will last you forever; Norma brass is top notch. Depending on the rifle and barrel length, I'd expect 2300-2400 fps with a 250 gr. would be a reasonable max.
14 January 2004, 08:28
VFR
Turf Man
If you have the time, you can make brass out of 8mm Mauser by just running it through your 9.3x57 full length dies and trimming. A little more trouble making them from '06 brass as you have to cut, trim, resize and fireform. Hornady makes the dies for about $50. MidwayUSA stocks them. Is the rifle in question a Husqvarna? VFR
14 January 2004, 08:43
turfman
VFR.

Yes it is a husky. Now I have another question for you guys. I'm looking at midway and they have the 9x57 mauser and 9.3x57 together. Is this the same round.

turfman
14 January 2004, 08:52
turfman
9.3x62:

The rifle is a husky and the barrel is 22". It looks to be in good shape; well the guy I'm getting it off of shot it with no problems.

thanks.
turfman
14 January 2004, 10:55
Littleloadingblock
The 9x57 is not the same as 9.3x57. Bullet size is .356 for the 9x57 and .366 for the 9.3 x57. I also have one of these husky rifles, and I am in the process of makeing ammo for it. Still trying to get my new set up fixed like I like it. I am going to call RCBS or Hornady and see if they put the tapered expander ball in the 9.3x57 forming die. I have heard from others on this board that you need a to work your way up to 9.3 with the 8mm brass by going -->.338 --> .358 and then you can form with the 9.3 die. But this seems like it could be avoided with a good expander. You have to buy coustom dies anyway, might be worth it to see if they could make a good tapered expander to go with them. Save some time anyway. LLB
14 January 2004, 12:40
VFR
I just went through all this confusion with the dies. Redding lists a 9 and a 9.3x57. The 9 is a stocked item and the 9.3 is a custom order. The Redding 9.3x57 (9mm Mauser) listing in the Midway catalogue on page 74 is actually 9x57. I had a set and returned them. Go figure. Anyway, the Hornady die set has a tapered expander and works fine necking up 8mm Mauser in one step. No need to fool around with 338/358 expanders. When making brass from '06, it is necessary use the intermediary expanders. VFR
15 January 2004, 02:24
turfman
Well. I bought it.

Thanks for all the advice guys; I really appreciate it. Also I'm going up to sarco today. I was on their website last night and it seems they have a new shipment of these rifles as well as millitary 96's. There are a few in 9.3x62. So we'll see what happens.

thanks again.
turfman.
15 January 2004, 04:51
smygaren
If you are interested in Husqvarna Rifles I recomend Mr 9,3x57 himselfs pages http://hem.bredband.net/b102212/hvastory.html
Very interesting in my opinion
15 January 2004, 08:04
turfman
smygaren:

Not to get off of the subject but; where are you from. My mother came from Hallans lan; from a town called Halmstad.

Ive been there, but I was a child; almost 30yrs ago.

thought I'd ask
turfman
15 January 2004, 08:38
Fritz Kraut
Quote:

...I was on their website last night and it seems they have a new shipment of these rifles as well as millitary 96's.



Grrr!!! Our socialist gun control government bans more than six rifles in the cabinet of a hunter. Old fine guns are thus sold for some $20 or $40 as junk - and than exported to Germany or the USA, where gun control isn�t that severe.

But I am glad that there are good shooters and hunter, who are willing to take care of our old fine guns!

Best regards,

Fritz
15 January 2004, 09:49
VFR
Fritz,
I recently purchased one of your Husqvarna M46's in 9.3x57. The metal work and inletting are very nice. The trigger is two stage with a smooth, light break and the bbl band sling swivel adds a bit of class. The receiver has never been drilled for a scope and the stock, although plain walnut, has a long length of pull and fits me perfectly. Points like my Fox 20ga. Thanks for such quality workmanship. Bob
15 January 2004, 18:39
smygaren
Quote:

Quote:

...I was on their website last night and it seems they have a new shipment of these rifles as well as millitary 96's.



Grrr!!! Our socialist gun control government bans more than six rifles in the cabinet of a hunter. Old fine guns are thus sold for some $20 or $40 as junk - and than exported to Germany or the USA, where gun control isn�t that severe.

But I am glad that there are good shooters and hunter, who are willing to take care of our old fine guns!

Best regards,

Fritz


And if you have bad luck and your local gun licens officer at the police hous has something personal against hunters and shoters 4 rifles is your maximum limit.


Turfman!
Im from the other end of the contry, Norrbottens l�n.


Regards Smygaren
15 January 2004, 22:52
jpb
Hejsan



Fortunately, I'm in Ume� and have had no problems with my gun licences.



In fact, I have 3 class 1 rifles alone... 7mm Rem Mag, .358 Norma Mag, .375 H&H Mag



It really is sad to see great deals on rifles, and not be able to grab them because of the licence problem.



jpb