Loving this 9,3

12 December 2006, 03:42

Bill/Oregon

Loving this 9,3

Got to the range for a few minutes today to zero the CZ 550 with Nikon 4X with some initial handloads: Lapua brass, WLR primer, 56 grains RE15 and Speer 270 JSP. I worked out to 100 yards with it, and had no trouble getting a 1-inch group before running through the first 20 rounds. That's not a bragging-sized group, but not bad for a first outing. And I was amazed how mild the recoil was. I suspect this in in fact one of the calibers like the 6.5 Swede that performs all out of proportion to its ballistics.

12 December 2006, 04:48

mstarling

Bill,

That's in fact likely to be a pretty light load. The Speer is a very accurate but fragile bullet.

My rifle pushes a 286 gr Nosler Partition to 2425 fps w 58 gr of RL-15 on Norma or Graf brass w WLR primers. No sign of pressure at all.

The really amazing performance is in the field. It just hits like the Hammer of Thor!

You'll love it!

12 December 2006, 05:45

drm-hp

Bill,
I am pushing a 250 grain North Fork at
3000 fps. in a 9.3mm wildcat. This is the Hammer of Thor. 9.3's are cool!
Thanks, Doug

12 December 2006, 05:57

N E 450 No2

Bill
If you have read some of my previous posts you will see my opinion of the 9,3x74R as a hunting calibre, which the 9,3x62 is the ballistic equivilent for "Bolt Rifle Trash" [sorry could not resist

]. The 270 Speer has worked excellent for me on deer and pigs including a 300 lb pig.

However, the best soft point bullets I have used are the 286 gr Woodleigh, and the 286 gr Nosler Partition.

The 9,3x62/9,3x74R are 2 of the best Hunting calibres on the Planet.

I consider these two 9,3's the equal, in the field of the 375 H&H.

All the CZ's I have shot were great rifles.

12 December 2006, 07:01

Idaho Sharpshooter

yah!

I have a friend(?) trying to talk me over to the dark side...with a 9,3x64mm Brennecke reamer...more than enough?

Rich
DRSS
NRA Life Member

12 December 2006, 20:09

Bill/Oregon

Thanks guys. I realize the 56-grain load is on the light side, but I thought it would be fine to start with for gun familiarization and scope zeroing. No question that the Speer 270 is lightly built. Our backstop at the range is decomposed granite, and it was wet, too -- a tough medium on bullets. But the Speers simply came apart. I had planned to load Nosler Partitions for my trip to Namibia, but the PH, who shoots a 9,3 CZ as well, recommended Barnes 250TSX, so as to gain just a bit flatter trajectory. So I'll try a box.

12 December 2006, 22:48

ChopperGuy

My 9.3x62 & 9.3x74R are my go to hunting rounds. Great performance on game here and in Africa.

I've kept my 250 Swift A Frame loads to about 2500 fps. This load is mild to shoot and completely penetrated an eland front shoulder to opposite rear flank. Moderate velocity and quality bullets do their job well.

I just picked up a 9.3x64 barrel to experiment with. Some of the 250 & 300 gr data looks very interesting to me. My next trip to Africa is for Sable, Pederson's (East African) Eland and Nyala where shots could get a bit on the long side. The 9.3x64 should fit the bill for this nicely.

I like reloading so it'll be fun to try another cartridge of my favorite medium bore caliber.

Good luck,

Mike

14 December 2006, 09:30

.366torque

quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
yah!

I have a friend(?) trying to talk me over to the dark side...with a 9,3x64mm Brennecke reamer...more than enough?

Rich
DRSS
NRA Life Member

I just got my 9.3x64 reloading dies. It's been a few months of waiting. They cost me $240 Cdn. to my door ( they're RCBS Group G) including the special shell holder. So now to blast off the remaining 26 factory carts and the reloading can begin after Christmas.
So IS if you're patient enough I can let you know how much further the Dark Side will take you.

14 December 2006, 10:17

6.5BR

Out of curiousity, did anyone see Charlie Sisk project, I believe a 9.3/350 Rem mag? I wonder how this compares to long actioned 9.3's? Not that I need something like this, but it was an interesting concept, large bore short action with perhaps good potential.

14 December 2006, 19:10

BFaucett

The 9.3 B-S (aka 9.3 Barsness-Sisk) was conceived by John Barsness and Charlie Sisk. They worked together on the project. As noted by 6.5BR, it's based on the .350 Rem Mag case. I read the article in Handloader magazine about it. The 9.3 B-S duplicates 9.3x62 ballistics.

Here's what John Barsness had to say about it over on the 24 Hour Campfire forums:

quote:
The 9.3 BS (as it is usually called) is the .350 Remington Magnum case necked up to 9.3mm. We developed it to duplicate the ballistics of the 9.3x62 (and 9.3x74R) in a short bolt action. Case capacity is very similar to the 9.3x62, and the 9.3 BS easily achieves 2400 fps with 286-grain bullets or 2600+ with 250's.

We didn't use one of the short-fat beltless magnum cases because a lot of people want Charlie to build them SAUMs or WSM's on short Remington 700 or Winchester 70 or Ruger 77 (or whatever) bolt actions for standard rounds. He has a heck of time doing that and getting them to feed right, but found that the .350 case will feed extremely well.

Also, the .350 case feeds great in short actions designed for the SAUMs and WSM's, sometimes better than the short-fat beltless rounds. My own 9.3 BS is built on a 700 action orginally barreled for the 7mm SAUM, and feeds great.

It just also turned out to be a very accurate round, something like a fat, belted .308. Of course Charlie putting the rifles together did not hurt, and neither did the Lilja barrels (the first 9.3's Dan ever made). Redding made the dies.

It is also one of easiest wildcats to load. In fact, with boattailed bullets you can just seat them in a .350 case without expanding the neck.

Kills stuff, too. Just like a 9.3x62.

The rest of the thread is here: 9.3 Barsness-Sisk

John Barsness goes by the handle of "Mule Deer" on the 24 Hour Campfire forums.

-Bob F.