I noticed that the Remington Classic for 2004 is the 8x57. That gives me tons of joy. I've always been
a big fan of this fine old German caliber. I have one in an old military mauser from 1916. The barrel is
just about shot out so the timing is excellent. I found out with the old 6.5x55 that the listings in
reloading books isn't even close when we're talking about new commercial rifles. You can load them up
to much more respectable velocities, and safely. I'm looking forward to seeing what I can squeeze
out of the 8x57. I've taken several personal shots at Remington in '03, but now all is forgiven. How many
of you shoot this venerable old caliber? Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

Still extremely common in Central Europe - the rimmed version perhaps even more so. Great caliber, will do all that an '06 will do, plus has the added advantage of a larger bullet diameter. Short of the 9.3x62 and equivalent calibers, the 8x57(R)S is best pig medicine in a comparatively low recoil package. I seem to have read that European factory ammo is loaded to somewhat higher pressure than US made ammo.
Have fun with the new rifle.
- mike

There was a vote on Remington's webpage, the .300 Ultra Mag was leading most of the time I think. I voted for the dear old 8x57 and low and behold, even if it lost the popularity contest Remington is using it

Now that the new year has arrived (i.e. new products for 2004), Remington has it listed on their web site.

http://www.remington.com/firearms/centerfire/700classic.htm

From their web site:

"Chambered in 8mm Mauser (8x57mmS), the 2004 Model 700 Classic becomes the 24th offering in this Limited Edition series. Recognized as the German military rifle cartridge during both World Wars the 8mm Mauser received little recognition with U.S. hunters, though long a favorite of European hunters and gunmakers. Following World War II, surplus 8mm military rifles in the United States increased the use and popularity of this medium to big game cartridge."

-Bob F.