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7mm Rem Mag for goats to the Mighty Sambar???? would it be suitable?
29 September 2008, 04:39
DHW7mm Rem Mag for goats to the Mighty Sambar???? would it be suitable?
Hi fellas
I'm in a state of utter confusion

and I am hoping someone could guide me.
I'm thinking of getting a bolt action rifle in the 7mm Remington Mag to hunt pigs,goats,Fallow,chital,hog,maybe Red and the mighty Sambar.
I'm thinking this will be my one gun,I already own a L/A 307 Win.
What is your thoughts on the calibre I chose? for & against
I want a 7mm rifle or I should say I prefer it,for I have shot one of my mates 7mm Rem Mag and liked it so much for every thing I shot at 9/10 I would hit it.
Do you think it would be minimal for Sambar?
(Sambar is similar to your Elk)
Seen the new Mossberg 4x4 rifle,looks real nice,any body have any dealings with Mossberg products? Also looking at the Tikka T3.
I was going to get a 7mmWSM,but a mate reckons the ol' 7mmRM is a better choice when it comes to heavier bullets and brass is easier to get/find and ammo as well,TRUE?
Please,any thoughts and recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
Respectfully
Dale Hodges
Cheers

P.S I also put this discussion in the Australian and New Zealand forum on this site.
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
29 September 2008, 04:49
MikeyB7mm Remington Magnum kills elk dead just fine. I'd stay FAR away from Mossberg rifles though, I've heard bad things about their reliability. Tikka is a much better choice. Others in that price range are Savage, Weatherby Vanguard, and Remington SPS - which are sound rifles for their price tags. I'd probably take a .30-06 as a one-gun hunter but I'm not a one-gun hunter and I've taken several elk and moose cleanly with my 7mm.
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29 September 2008, 05:08
jetdrvrNever shot Sambar (or elk) with mine, but the 7mm RM has proven very suitable for kudu, oryx, (both one shot kills with 160 gr. A Frames), whitetail deer in Canada, Texas, Alabama, and South Carolina, impala, zebra, (one shotter, also at 175 yds), blesbok, jackal, blue wildebeest and warthog. The 160 TSX, A Frame, or Partition should easily do the job. Or you can go to the 175 grain, which many prefer.
29 September 2008, 05:09
Thomas Jonesclearly the 7 mag is a great choice for any softskined game.
I don't think I would go after a Grizzly bear with it but a elk or a mosse hell yes.
Find a 160 grain bullet it likes ang go hunting.
And by the way, I have one of those SPS remingtons in .257 Weatherby. Tack driver. One in 7 mag would probably be a great rifle. Kind of ugly though, you might want a BDL instead (I like wood)
...tj3006
freedom1st
29 September 2008, 05:34
DHWquote:
Originally posted by MikeyB:
7mm Remington Magnum kills elk dead just fine. I'd stay FAR away from Mossberg rifles though, I've heard bad things about their reliability. Tikka is a much better choice. Others in that price range are Savage, Weatherby Vanguard, and Remington SPS - which are sound rifles for their price tags. I'd probably take a .30-06 as a one-gun hunter but I'm not a one-gun hunter and I've taken several elk and moose cleanly with my 7mm.
MikeyB
Thanks for that
What sort of reliability problems with the Mossberg?
Probably go with the Tikka T3
Cheers mate
Dale Hodges
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
29 September 2008, 05:37
DHWquote:
Originally posted by Thomas Jones:
clearly the 7 mag is a great choice for any softskined game.
I don't think I would go after a Grizzly bear with it but a elk or a mosse hell yes.
Find a 160 grain bullet it likes ang go hunting.
And by the way, I have one of those SPS remingtons in .257 Weatherby. Tack driver. One in 7 mag would probably be a great rifle. Kind of ugly though, you might want a BDL instead (I like wood)
...tj3006
Thomas
Thanks for that as well,appreciated all the comments.
Yeah we don't have grizzly bears here in Australia,only Koala bears and their protected also cute.
Dale Hodges
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
29 September 2008, 05:38
DHWThanks to all that have posted
I appreciate it
Keep them coming though
Cheers
Dale Hodges
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
29 September 2008, 05:59
CARNEquote:
Mossberg
Well would one character a Mossberg. It much like buying oats. You can buy nice new oats or you can buy oats that have been put through the horse.
The Tikka, Savage or a Remmington all would work well.
29 September 2008, 06:00
Rob1SGI've owned a 7mm Rem Mag since 1978. Great caliber, it's taken a couple of Elk and many other smaller game animals. Don't worry you'll have plenty of gun. For Elk I have used 160 and 175 gr. bullets both worked well. For lesser animals I'd use the 140 gr at 3200-3300 FPS.
29 September 2008, 06:42
DHWquote:
Originally posted by Rob1SG:
I've owned a 7mm Rem Mag since 1978. Great caliber, it's taken a couple of Elk and many other smaller game animals. Don't worry you'll have plenty of gun. For Elk I have used 160 and 175 gr. bullets both worked well. For lesser animals I'd use the 140 gr at 3200-3300 FPS.
Rob1SG
Thank you for your reply
And I hope I'm happy with my 7mmRM as you are
Thanks
Dale Hodges
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
29 September 2008, 06:45
DHWquote:
Originally posted by CARNE:
quote:
Mossberg
Well would one character a Mossberg. It much like buying oats. You can buy nice new oats or you can buy oats that have been put through the horse.
The Tikka, Savage or a Remmington all would work well.
Hi CARNE
I have heard some good reviews on the Mossberg 4x4,very impressed too.
But I do like the Tikka T3
Cheers mate
Dale Hodges
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
29 September 2008, 10:56
Paul from nzthats pretty much what i use my 280AI for, and i guess you could say its pretty much a 7mm rem mag. i even use it on small varmints.
works a treat. id go for the 7mm rem mag in the tikka T3
29 September 2008, 14:15
DHWquote:
Originally posted by Paul from nz:
thats pretty much what i use my 280AI for, and i guess you could say its pretty much a 7mm rem mag. i even use it on small varmints.
works a treat. id go for the 7mm rem mag in the tikka T3
Hi Paul
I'm leaning towards the Tikka,wait and see what my gun dealer comes back with a quote and what it is like.
Cheer mate
Dale
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
29 September 2008, 15:28
Dr. LouI'll back you on chosing the 7mm RM. If that's the round that floats your boat, then go for it. It will do evertything that you are wanting to use it for, and do it with ease. Lou
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29 September 2008, 16:00
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by MikeyB:
7mm Remington Magnum kills elk dead just fine. I'd stay FAR away from Mossberg rifles though, I've heard bad things about their reliability. Tikka is a much better choice. Others in that price range are Savage, Weatherby Vanguard, and Remington SPS - which are sound rifles for their price tags. I'd probably take a .30-06 as a one-gun hunter but I'm not a one-gun hunter and I've taken several elk and moose cleanly with my 7mm.
quote:
Originally posted by Dale Hodges:
Hi Paul
I'm leaning towards the Tikka,wait and see what my gun dealer comes back with a quote and what it is like.
Cheer mate
Dale
DO NOT get the Mossberg!! As MikeyB, stated the Vanguard and the SPS are much more rifle for around the same money.
29 September 2008, 16:54
DHWquote:
Originally posted by Dr. Lou:
I'll back you on chosing the 7mm RM. If that's the round that floats your boat, then go for it. It will do evertything that you are wanting to use it for, and do it with ease. Lou
Hi Dr Lou
Thanks for the reply"If that's the round that floats your boat"

I like that.
Have not heard a bad word about the 7mmRem Mag
Cheers
Dale
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
29 September 2008, 16:58
DHWquote:
Originally posted by .366torque:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeyB:
7mm Remington Magnum kills elk dead just fine. I'd stay FAR away from Mossberg rifles though, I've heard bad things about their reliability. Tikka is a much better choice. Others in that price range are Savage, Weatherby Vanguard, and Remington SPS - which are sound rifles for their price tags. I'd probably take a .30-06 as a one-gun hunter but I'm not a one-gun hunter and I've taken several elk and moose cleanly with my 7mm.
quote:
Originally posted by Dale Hodges:
Hi Paul
I'm leaning towards the Tikka,wait and see what my gun dealer comes back with a quote and what it is like.
Cheer mate
Dale
DO NOT get the Mossberg!! As MikeyB, stated the Vanguard and the SPS are much more rifle for around the same money.
.366 Torque
What is wrong with the Mossberg?I have heard good reviews about them,not that I'm going to get one I don't think,might get the Tikka or the Howa.
Cheers
Dale
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
29 September 2008, 20:42
.366torqueA very cheap version of a Savage. The "pin" that holds the bold head, the firing pin and the bolt body together, has a bad habit of breaking.
A story.29 September 2008, 22:16
MileHighShooterThe 7RM will be perfect for what you want it to do. Go with the 160 or 175gr bullets on the sambar, and a good 140 or 150 for everything else and you're set. The 7wsm is a great round, but like you said over in Australia you probably don't have the components and ammo as available as we do here in the states.
I was going to suggest Howa as well, same thing as the Weatherby Vanguard, but a bit cheaper.
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30 September 2008, 02:45
DHWquote:
Originally posted by .366torque:
A very cheap version of a Savage. The "pin" that holds the bold head, the firing pin and the bolt body together, has a bad habit of breaking.
A story.
.366Torque
Read the story and ouch

,I think I'll go for the Howa or Tikka.
Thanks for that eye opener
Cheers
Dale
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
30 September 2008, 02:48
DHWquote:
Originally posted by MileHighShooter:
The 7RM will be perfect for what you want it to do. Go with the 160 or 175gr bullets on the sambar, and a good 140 or 150 for everything else and you're set. The 7wsm is a great round, but like you said over in Australia you probably don't have the components and ammo as available as we do here in the states.
I was going to suggest Howa as well, same thing as the Weatherby Vanguard, but a bit cheaper.
Milehighshooter
The weights of projectiles you stated was what I was thinking also,great
And after reading the story that .366Torque posted for me,I think I might get the Howa or Tikka T3
Thanks mate
Cheers
Dale

"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
30 September 2008, 04:35
Rob1SGDale, I went to the range today. I was shooting my 7mm RM getting ready for this weekends pronghorn hunt in Colorado. I was shooting 140gr Accubonds over 66 gr of RL22 and a CCI250 primer. My last three shots were 1.14 at 300 yds. If you handload this is a good place to start but drop the powder by 5% and work up. My 160 gr Accubond load is with Retumbo and is very accurate also.Good luck
30 September 2008, 06:54
acsteeleI think you will love the 7mm RM, I do. I like Savage rifles, not pretty, but man do they shoot. I have also had great luck with the Tikka, you won't regret buying a T3, or the 7mm RM.
Good luck on selection!
Joe
Lt. Robert J. Dole, 10th Mountain, Italy.
30 September 2008, 17:10
DHWquote:
Originally posted by Rob1SG:
Dale, I went to the range today. I was shooting my 7mm RM getting ready for this weekends pronghorn hunt in Colorado. I was shooting 140gr Accubonds over 66 gr of RL22 and a CCI250 primer. My last three shots were 1.14 at 300 yds. If you handload this is a good place to start but drop the powder by 5% and work up. My 160 gr Accubond load is with Retumbo and is very accurate also.Good luck
Rob1SG
Thanks for that load,sounds superb,Retumbo is sold by Hodgdon,but made by ADI here in Australia at least that is what I've been told.
Cheers mate and good luck with your hunt.
Cheers
Dale
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
30 September 2008, 17:13
DHWquote:
Originally posted by acsteele:
I think you will love the 7mm RM, I do. I like Savage rifles, not pretty, but man do they shoot. I have also had great luck with the Tikka, you won't regret buying a T3, or the 7mm RM.
Good luck on selection!
Joe
Hi Joe
their is a good variety of rifles to pick from,isn't there?Savage are a very good brand and Tikka,well I always wanted one.
Decisions Decisions
Cheers
Dale
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
30 September 2008, 20:37
Blair338/378Dale,
I've shot lots of deer and PG in Africa with the 7mmMag AND THE 7MMSTW. Never a Sambar though, but if I was going to do so I'd try a 175 TBBC or a 175TSX if your barrel will stabilise them.
2217,Re-25 and N570 are all good in them with the heavier bullets..
Stick with the Tikka, they shoot

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Blair.
01 October 2008, 03:06
DHWquote:
Originally posted by Blair338/378:
Dale,
I've shot lots of deer and PG in Africa with the 7mmMag AND THE 7MMSTW. Never a Sambar though, but if I was going to do so I'd try a 175 TBBC or a 175TSX if your barrel will stabilise them.
2217,Re-25 and N570 are all good in them with the heavier bullets..
Stick with the Tikka, they shoot
HiBlair
I think I'll go with the Tikka T3 the rate of twist on it is 1 in 9.5 (i think)
I also like the Savage and Howa rifles too.
Cheers
Dale
"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
03 October 2008, 10:23
fredj338The 7mmRM is a very good hunting round, just make sure to match bullet wt. to the game size & you'll be fine. I prefer "premium" bullets upto 160gr if impact vel. are above 2700fps (shorter range). I've taken Thar, deer, pornghorn & elk w/ mine & it would do well on the biggest Sambar w/ 160grNPs @ 3100fps.
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04 October 2008, 02:56
DHWquote:
Originally posted by fredj338:
The 7mmRM is a very good hunting round, just make sure to match bullet wt. to the game size & you'll be fine. I prefer "premium" bullets upto 160gr if impact vel. are above 2700fps (shorter range). I've taken Thar, deer, pornghorn & elk w/ mine & it would do well on the biggest Sambar w/ 160grNPs @ 3100fps.
fredj338
Hi,I reckon the 7 mm Rem Mag will be a fine addition to my gun safe ad I intend to get some Woodleigh bullets in those weight ranges,I checked out some 7mm projectile prices yesterday and nearly had a heart attack

Bloody ridiculous the money they want for them,but if you need them you have to buy them.
Cheers mate
Dale

"I'll tell you what rule we applied sir,We applied rule 3-0-3, We caught them and we shot them, under rule 3-0-3." :Lt Harry " Breaker" Morant at his court martial in January 1902.
"God,Gun's & Gut's made Australia free,let's fight to keep all three."
04 October 2008, 03:36
MileHighShooterYou can't go wrong with Woodleigh! Are they any cheaper for you guys seeing as their produced in Australia? I'd love to play some, but a bit expensive here, even for premiums
If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter!