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What problems have you had with your WSM rifle?
22 March 2006, 13:06
dgr416What problems have you had with your WSM rifle?
I hear lots of people who love their wsm rifles but there are too many used ones that I have seen with feeding problems.Have you had troubles with your wsm rifles.I just saw two identical wsm Kimber rifles a 300 and 325 wsm both that would not feed.I have heard of more problems with these cartridges either not feeding or too much pressure with hot loads.What kind of WSM problems have you had?
22 March 2006, 16:02
tradewindsI have had three WSM rifles with no problems.
22 March 2006, 16:43
BushchookMy model 70 7mm feeds perfectly , shoots 5 under MOA . Can get factory quoted ballistics without pressure signs with 140 grainers and WXR or H4831 but accuracy is a lot better if I drop 75 FPS .
Wouldn't hesitate to buy another WSM .
The hunting imperative was part of every man's soul; some denied or suppressed it, others diverted it into less blatantly violent avenues of expression, wielding clubs on the golf course or racquets on the court, substituting a little white ball for the prey of flesh and blood.
Wilbur Smith
22 March 2006, 17:50
olarmyMine work fine, also
22 March 2006, 18:53
squeezeI won a Howa 1500, in 300 WSM, and this
cartridge was a complete unknown to me, along
with the rifle. I hand load for a pile of other
cartridges, so I have some experience. I
purchased the dies, and a synthetic stock, for the
Howa, since I don't hunt wood stocks, on my
rifles. My first couple of test loads, with 165
Barnes XLC bullets, were ho hum. I did some
reading, and asking, and tweeked the loads, and
the first group on the second try, was .625 MOA.
Since that first experience, I have loaded a
number of loads from 125 grs to 180 grs,
and have found the 300 WSM an excellent
cartridge. I would not buy a 300 WM, now
that I have owned a 300 WSM. I might get
a 338 mag, of some kind, but in the 30 cal.
mag class, the 300 WSM is just fine by me.
Accurate, and relatively easy recoil, makes
for a fun rifle off the bench, and a very effective
rifle on game.
As for the feeding problem, I keep hearing
about them, but in maybe 15 WSM rifles
that I am acquainted with, there have been
ZERO feeding problems. I guess some one
must have had one, and then posted their
experience in many websites, and it spread
like wildfire.
I know the original poster is VERY anti-WSM,
from his regular posts on the topic, but I just
don't get it. I am happy that some rifle/ammo
companies research new cartridge designs.
I like the choices, even though some of them
have little to no differentiation, from more
established cartridge designs. I think the
WSSM design opens up doors like the new
AR-15 uppers, in WSSMs, and wouldn't be
there, without this new cartridge development.
Sure these new designs are not for everyone,
and for those with no use for them, go grab
your "Turdy ought six", and enjoy, but there
really is no need to "pee on the parade" of those
that do REALLY like their WSM/WSSMs, with
subjective predictions of their demise.
With all of this negativity, I think I am going to
have to buy a new rifle, so I am not depressed.
Hmmm, a 270 WSM sounds interesting

Squeeze
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
22 March 2006, 19:32
biglmbassquote:
Originally posted by squeeze:
With all of this negativity, I think I am going to have to buy a new rifle, so I am not depressed.Squeeze
This very thing has helped me before.

22 March 2006, 20:39
dgr416I was just wondering about it after seeing two Kimbers which would not feed even after they returned them.There are also alot of people who sell their wsm rifles.I was just wondering why they did sell them.
22 March 2006, 21:21
ArkhillbillyThe problem I have with WSM rifles is that I can't seem to quit buying them. Magnum performance with 4" less gun to tote is a big deal when you hunt in the regions I hunt. Get over it, adapt, improvise, and overcome....the 300WSM is here to stay.
22 March 2006, 21:26
Crimson Misterquote:
"Turdy ought six",
Your Wisconsin is showing, Squeeze.
Some people are a lot like Slinkies: They're not good for much but it's kind of fun to push them down a flight of stairs.
22 March 2006, 21:35
phurley5I have a .270 WSM and it is here to stay. No problems and this sucker will shoot. 140 grain Barnes XLC at 3300 fps, 130 grain North Fork at 3400 fps, both with accuracy. I don't care what you call it, with that performance many more will be buying the chambering. Just started on a .243 WSSM that is super, super accurate from the get go.

Good shooting.
phurley
22 March 2006, 22:39
TXRamMy .270WSM M70 had feeding problems when I got it - would not feed the last round without a good amount of brute force, and then the brass was scarred from the feed ramp pretty good. The problem was that the extractor had too much tension, and would not allow the lip of the cartridge to slide all the way up onto the bolt face. Removing some of the tension (by
slightly bending the rear part out (doesn't stick out, just removes a little of the original bend from it) totally cured the problem. It has plenty of tension to hold the cartridges onto the boltface, but now allows all the rounds to slide up all the way onto the boltface - voila, no more feeding problems and no more scarred brass!
My 300WSM M70 feeds just fine.
We Band of 45-70er's
22 March 2006, 22:46
SempreElkGet a WSM in a good gun and you should have absolutely no feed problems. Are you saying that other magnums all feed well? Problem I had was getting rid of my other "long mags" once I saw how well these WSM's shoot and how tolerant they are of most handloads.
Working on my ISIS strategy....FORE
23 March 2006, 01:16
squeezeIn all fairness, I have not experienced a feeding
problem, first hand, I have heard second hand
from a couple of close friends, about a two
Winchester M70's that had feeding issues. And
there does seem to be persistent web accounts of
some Kimbers, with feeding issues. I know the
M-70's went back to Winchester, and one came
back feeding well, and one did not. A local
gunsmith looked at the rifle, and from the second
hand account, touched up the extractor, similar to
what TXRam described. I do wonder what is up
with Kimbers. Isn't that a CRF M70 action?
Rich,
Ya, I got me one a dem Turdy ought Sixes.
It was Pa's. I shoot 'er for ol'times sake,
but I like my t'ree O eight BAR more for
bustin' tru da cedar swamp.

If you head to the place in Shawano County,
where the glaciers died, and you walk the
Middle Branch of the Embarrass River, you
will pass right through my land, and within
a rifle shot of our "Deer Camp". Someone with
my last name, has been chasing the deer in
that area for 80 years. Actually my grandfather,
and his brothers logged the first growth timber
there, and then bought the logged off land from
the timber company, and started farms. Back
den da gun to have was a Turdy two special.
Squeeze
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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23 March 2006, 01:23
24mileboyI have a 270 WSM and a 223 WSSM and have not had an ounce of feeding problems with either one.Both are extremely accurate and now I want a 300 WSM.
23 March 2006, 02:55
Sendero300I owned one .300 WSM in a Winchester camo stainless. The feeding was rough compared to a couple of 300WM's that I owned. Particularly the first round from the magazine when loading 3 down so I would just load 2 in the magazine and one in the tube. Also mine wasn't that accurate. I tried several different handloads along with factory loads. About the best I got was 1 1/2" with 180 noslers in Federal factory.
Also the chamber was rough and had to be polished out. The brass was hard to extract after firing.
I've read that folks have had good luck with the .300WSM's in the accuracy dept. with the 168gr TSX but...not mine.
I did like the rifle. Real handy on an elk hunt in Colorado. I would try another one.
Sendero300>>>===TerryP
23 March 2006, 03:16
SouthpawDVThe only problem I had with my Savage 11FL in 300wsm, was that iit did'nt require any frigging or tweeking to get it to shoot groups of 1" or smaller.
Where is the fun in that. LOL
23 March 2006, 05:28
LBGuyI had a M70Classic Stainless in 300WSM and it was a fine, functional rifle. No problems of any type during the 3 years I owned it. Killed elk well too! It and one more are the only rifles I wish I had hung on to. Such is life!
23 March 2006, 05:36
brytstarMy Model 70 in 7WSM has no feeding problems and shoots tight groups with everything I have reloaded for it.
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My problem with my Brownng 300 WSM is that I always need to replace the targets at the range, it keeps shooting all the bullets into 1 hole,
Not like my other rifles, they use more of the paper on the target,
24 March 2006, 04:11
steve4102I have Browning BAR in 300WSM. Has never missed a beat. It is also very very accurate. If an auto-loader can feed the chubbies, then any
well designed bolt gun should have noooo problem.
24 March 2006, 06:08
ted thornI have a .270 WSM Browning A-Bolt and it feeds great and shoots great! It's a keeper!
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24 March 2006, 06:38
TreeFarmerI have a Savage 16BSS in 300WSM. Consistently shoots factory ammo into an inch or under. Rifle has Savage's version of CRF and I have not had any feeding problems.
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24 March 2006, 06:53
bob300wsmI Have a Win Model 70 coyote: No problems at all. Gun shots .750 inches with nosler 150 par.. and .400 with nosler bt. 100 yard range.. Have harvested several deer over the last 2 years. Shots ranged from 35 yards to 309 yds.
24 March 2006, 07:02
Big MoNo problems what so ever with my Win. Feather wt. 270 wsm, is very accurate.
25 March 2006, 15:16
cjp45The only problem I'm having with my Savage 16FSS is it only shoots 5/8" groups at 100yds. Should be able to do better when I get new SSS comp trigger for it.
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26 March 2006, 04:37
GeedubyaI have two kimber's one in 7wsm the other in 300 wsm. also a winchester super grade in 300 wsm. All three shoot under an inch at 100 yds. Biggest problem is deciding which one to take. The winchester clocks at 3320 fps w/ 150 gr. sierra spitzers. Shot 4 whitetail deer, 6 hogs and a turkey with the winchester without a miss last season. All dropped where they were shot.
Second biggest problem is don't get to shoot either of the three at enough game.
GWB
26 March 2006, 04:49
ColtchrisNo problems whatsoever; have 270 and 300 WSM's and both are great shooters.
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12 April 2006, 18:51
Paul CrosslandThe only problem with my Mod 70 in 7WSM was not being able to shoot it as much as I wanted to! I did have a problem with one set of dies, fixed that by ditching them! Feeding was never an issue. Accuracy is fantastic.
12 April 2006, 20:01
Stonecreekquote:
Originally posted by Arkhillbilly:
The problem I have with WSM rifles is that I can't seem to quit buying them. Magnum performance with 4" less gun to tote is a big deal when you hunt in the regions I hunt. Get over it, adapt, improvise, and overcome....the 300WSM is here to stay.
The difference in action lengths between the "medium" WSM and the "standard" or "long" actions is between 3/4 and 1 inch (and about 3-4 ounces lighter). Do you chop 3 inches off of your barrel to get a gun 4" shorter?
13 April 2006, 07:21
mudstudMy 7mm WSM M70 Classic feeds like chit through a goose. A friend had a Kimber in 270 WSM which had feeding issues, so he traded it on a Sako in same caliber. Guess everything is all right now. By the way, a Kimber is CRF, it is NOT a CRF Model 70 knock-off, or anything even remotely resembling a Model 70, except the bolt does have the M70 style extractor, and it has a three position safety, other than that there are no particular resemblances that I can know of.
14 April 2006, 23:38
martinbnsI shoot a Browning 300 WSM, I have had no problems at all. I am very impressed with the cartridge. It was the easiest rifle I've ever had to find a good load with, 1 try, 168 gr TSX, 67 gr of H4350, better than MOA, hits very hard, recoil is manageable even in a realtively light rifle.